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chetty: 200+ people talking at once? oh what fun, hold me back
assbot: /danielpbarron Daniel r u going to come onto this 200+ user global bitcoin teamspeak channel and bring your cult /hashtag/bitcoinassets?src=hash mates?
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/flibbr/status/570684349152165888 @danielpbarron I have insiders in #bitcoin-assets now. I am inviting you onto the teamspeak. It'd be rude not to show your face :)
trinque: I feel like I'm going to get my startup profitable just as the roof caves in
trinque: are we really trying to instigate wwiii?
trinque: not to derail current convos, but I finally caught up on the current events blockchain as well
trinque: mired in irl work until this evening, but will be finishing up then
trinque: got the deedbot blockchain up to date yesterday, haxed on the transaction creating guy
ascii_field: ru politicos even fight to decide who merits 'blinker' - like roman lictors
mircea_popescu: and the answer is "nothing".
assbot: What ARE politicians doing that’s so important that they travel with lights and sirens? | Burned-Out Medic ... ( http://bit.ly/1LEo00t )
mircea_popescu: most decent guild players have meanwhile learned to stfu / use it sanely.
mircea_popescu: notmuch worse than the historical forum.
mats: teamspeak sounds like a horrifically bad medium to communicate with more than, say, three people at a time
jux: teamspeak all the audio bitcoin chatters/traders
mircea_popescu: who's they
jux: they just mentioned this place on teamspeak so i am checking it out
ben_vulpes: sure, the otp itself.
mircea_popescu: i thought they're single use ?
mike_c: if we could sign into b-a with our facebook accounts we wouldn't have to get up'ed when we were in the field.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field dun take it teh wrong way, but! the thanking is kinda spammy.
assbot: BitBet - CLAM losing grip -> sells 0.0029 or lower before April 25th :: 0.18 B (3%) on Yes, 5.08 B (97%) on No | closing in 1 month 3 weeks | weight: 93`348 (100`000 to 10) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dqxbjc )
mircea_popescu: which bet is this ?
BayAreaCoins: MP do you plan on pulling the CLAM bet on BitBet or is it going to run its course? If you do cancel it I assume the coins will just be sent to the payment addresses?
BingoBoingo: Well, has to go both directions
ascii_field: don't forget streaming audio from microphones chump voluntarily keeps in the house, car, etc
BingoBoingo: "Streaming Video" and online gaming are the USG approved application of surplus bandwidth
mircea_popescu: ah there is that.
mircea_popescu: actually intermittent low bw internet would be better for that purpose. keep the redditard busy
ascii_field: but it'll be the 'internet of the future' rather than what we're using now.
ascii_field: orlov, interestingly, argued that high speed net is key in the modern usg 'panem et circenses' program and will chug along long after problems with supplying the basics of life have begun
ascii_field: 'For a goat may butt, and a worm may sting, / And a child will sometimes stand; / But a poor dead soldier of the King / Can never lift a hand.' (herr kipling)
assbot: 8 results for 'internet of the future' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=internet+of+the+future
ascii_field: !s internet of the future
mircea_popescu: no argument that health care was attainable in the us cca 2010. just cost a liuttle more.
mircea_popescu: more's the point : it won't stay that way.
ascii_field: (and price goes up geometrically with distance from major 'icbm targets')
ascii_field: just costs a few times mroe
ascii_field: but decent bandwidth isn't this totally unattainable thing in gringolandia
ascii_field: for ~1/5 the cost, probably, yes
mircea_popescu: however, romania is, like all of asia, on gbps sorta thing
ascii_field: it's the other stuff.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: high speed << not actually a major problem in the american population centres
jurov: lol....guess using drones is cheaper than pigeons by now
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <pigeons> so far that seems accurate
chetty: anybody tried raising pigeons?
BingoBoingo: But the FCC internet will give users Fat Pipes, to better DoS real people with.
chetty: same thing will be with the fcc internet : just fast enough people don't start making an independent one.// speed will not be the only issue, think china
mircea_popescu: same thing will be with the fcc internet : just fast enough people don't start making an independent one.
mircea_popescu: it's how africa's being "helped" : ban the perfectly fine fillament lightbulbs just as they get to where they could maybe make some, trickle in a little food so most people don't want to work.
mircea_popescu: no see, the socialised medicine is just good enopugh to prevent an actually useful, individual solution.
chetty: well I guess the usaians need to learn from the greeks how make mesh nets
mircea_popescu: being humiliated by shitholes like romania apparently isn't going to be a temporary situation.
mircea_popescu: so basically, no high speed for the us. ever.
chetty: well this fcc chair was against net nuetrality a while back, then he had a meeting with ?? and 332 pags of new regulation (stamped secret) appeared. You figure it out
thestringpuller: except when you exercise it they just throw you into a hole
chetty: well I guess they still sorta respect the 5th amendment, might be the only one left
thestringpuller: chetty: or turns into a gasenwagen! gas just starts spewing out.
mircea_popescu: "o hey, i refuse to testify. fu."
mircea_popescu: lol you can do that now ?
chetty: and delivers you to the gasenwagen when the time comes
mircea_popescu: nah, because a) the usg doesn't care to steer you a particular direction. it only wants you to not move - it's a bureaucracy after all, it has no resources to deal with change, nor can change mean anything but it's ass ; b) the illusion of free wheeling is what's important.
thestringpuller: "I want to go to the strip club" "Cannot drive to that destination"
thestringpuller: lol self driving car in future prevents you from going to certain places.
jurov: which there already are some
jurov: dunno better comparison to pki would be a car without steering whell, steered by usg
mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/2bdf04c34b7f80baf2346fd55e3c61ec/tumblr_n2l0330B3N1toca06o1_400.gif << this is one brave babe.
BingoBoingo: MT Car, by Mircea Trabant company
PeterL: heh, I like that name, because when you say it MP-car sounds alot like empty-car
mircea_popescu: well... 200sqft "studio", as the case may be.
mircea_popescu: and prolly have more market cap than gm, as far as that goes.
mircea_popescu: soon enough a "competitor" to gm has been born.
mircea_popescu: get some fed grants for it, idiots will prolly go in the box just to be different...
mircea_popescu: i should probably ycombinate a start-up to deploy tons of these in old warehouses across the us
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2015 21:26:58; asciilifeform: the fastest, thickest, most luxurious car is --- not having to go places.
mircea_popescu: plus, it prevents not only traffic accidents (leading cause of death!) but also, this one time, this guy used a car and was robbed!
thestringpuller: the sad thing is you could do that and prob get bonus at some firm in the US
mircea_popescu: "but it's just as good and much easier to use than a car!11"
mircea_popescu: "takes you wherever you want to go! not really..."
mircea_popescu: i wonder if i could sell some cars to these idiots that are really wooden crates with lcd screen inside.
mircea_popescu: and still pushing the pki ridiculousness.
thestringpuller: d00d from FBI wants to outlaw GPG in US (again)
thestringpuller: ^- the new propaganda on encryption
danielpbarron: the people throwing this term around are advocates of some fully automated process that runs on their phone, so...
mircea_popescu: "Even the projects that attempt to use it as a dependency struggle." heh
mircea_popescu: half way, because if the public interface is compromised it still sees all your emails.
danielpbarron: for the logs, perfect forward secrecy ^
mircea_popescu: this can be repeated as many times as you wish, and it can also be used as an otr process (just make new key for each exchange).
mircea_popescu: 3) you send mail to 1 using 2 and including pubkey for your new key.
mircea_popescu: 1) you find the public key of the public interface you wish to use
PeterL: so that number of users could be understated
mircea_popescu: PeterL sure, there's nothing but convenience requiring it.
mircea_popescu: Looking forward, however, I think of GPG as a very dangerous technology that really has to go away if we're serious about making it impossible for journalists, their sources, activists and other enemies of the state to survive in a NSA/TSA/ETC-only world."
mircea_popescu: Today, journalists use GPG to communicate with sources securely, activists use it to coordinate world wide, and software companies use it to help secure their infrastructure. Some really heroic people have put in an enormous amount of effort to get us here, at substantial personal cost, and with little support.
PeterL: do people use keys not submitted to key servers?
mircea_popescu: "Worse, it turns out that nobody else found all this stuff to be fascinating. Even though GPG has been around for almost 20 years, there are only ~50,000 keys in the “strong set,” and less than 4 million keys have ever been published to the SKS keyserver pool ever. By today’s standards, that’s a shockingly small user base for a month of activity, much less 20 years."
mircea_popescu: the oil and the water are separating, and no welfarist state-sponsored mixer can do anything abotu the accelerating rate.
mircea_popescu: "There just seems to be something particular about people who try GPG and conclude that it’s a realistic path to introducing private communication in their lives for casual correspondence with strangers. Increasingly, it’s a club that I don’t want to belong to anymore." << well... granted, eh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not everyone's the outgoing kind.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: or there'd be at least a few dead polizei