510500+ entries in 0.336s
ascii_field: or
the chinese
toy chopper maker who 'volunteered'
to gps-restrict
the machine
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> presently
the cheapest way
to fight back is
to extract
the 'magic' algorithms and make sure
the patterns start
to appear in inconvenient places << oh
this is bril
Adlai: otoh,
the movie
theater proprietor who jams cellphone signals during screenings can marry my firstborn daughter
PeterL: obviously
to stop videoing police
ascii_field: for instance,
there is
talk of mandating
that digital cameras obey a magic remote off signal
ascii_field: the
thing with
the diddled printers/image editors/etc is an actual
thing
today
danielpbarron: oo,
that reminds me of an article you once pasted in here
ascii_field: presently
the cheapest way
to fight back is
to extract
the 'magic' algorithms and make sure
the patterns start
to appear in inconvenient places
ascii_field: danielpbarron: well
the illegal image opens fine in GIMP << only half
the story. before long, it won't print on printer, or even display on display.
ascii_field: Adlai: go and
try letting something like
this cons!
ben_vulpes: ah it's so nice
to see people building and running
the RI
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 267.15, Best ask: 267.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last
trade: 267.32, 24 hour volume: 23415.63076852, 24 hour low: 260.91, 24 hour high: 271.5, 24 hour vwap: None
funkenstein_: nubbins, re: 0.5.3.1 after a couple days i am up
to 220k blocks. just like
the old days isn't it?
PeterL: or you
think it would be easier
to hold
the s.qntr price down so no wins?
PeterL: unless you convince somebody
to put some money down on no before you do
the manipulation
PeterL: what I mean is
there is such a small amount bet on
the bet, you might spend more
than you would win holding
the price up. Spend
tens of btc
to win .003 btc?
jurov: why not?
there are
tens of btc worth shares floating, someone bought
them at < 0.0003
PeterL: but still not worth it as
the bet currently stands
PeterL: there's not a whole lot of shares
trading with which
to dump
jurov: yes, but with risk someone notices and will
try
to dump
the shares on
that price
PeterL: but it wouldn't
take much coin
to push it up above
the s.mpex price, and
then you just need a bit of self-trading
to keep it
there a month
jurov: lol current qntr sell depth is just bitcents. if i wanted
to sway it for
the bet
to win, would have
to start
trading with myself
jurov: currently no need
to check so often, it's still 0.0003534 vs. 0.00026069
PeterL: I guess anybody who bets on yes should make a point
to come in here and do !t for each periodically
PeterL: it just seems like it should use a resolution source which can be checked later on, like when
the bet ends
thestringpuller: if
the middle value on 30d for S.QNTR > correlated value for S.MPOE
PeterL: so for
the yes side
to win, somebody has
to do !t for each here while
the qntr is a higher price
nubbins`: ^ with apologies
to asciilifeform
assbot: BitBet - Qntra
to
the moon :: 0.31 B (79%) on Yes, 0.08 B (21%) on No | closing in 6 months 6 days | weight: 90`974 (100`000
to 10) ... (
http://bit.ly/19fs1Mm )
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`>
tangentially, i wonder if someone who chose
to name
their company "Eris Industries" ever used IRC in
the 90s. << Incredilol
Adlai is fairly certain
that phuctor is written in cl
punkman: Adlai, and for extra fun "Short strings, given simply in quotes as above, are
treated as numbers; long strings, surrounded by
the
text keyword as above, are
treated as array-like objects"
Adlai: still a little silly for
the platform bandied about as
turing-complete
to lack actual bignums
nubbins`: wait,
that was superscript in src, wasn't it 8)
nubbins`: Serpent,
the ideal language for businesses who don't need more
than 2,256 of anything
Adlai: at least
they pay out bounties in btc
punkman: nobody's gonna use it, so why spend
time
testing :P
funkenstein_: i
think line number
two is pretty important and looks like a common
theme from
the ethereum
team
funkenstein_: what do you bet
they use 32 bits or more
to model
that behavior?
punkman: lol "Python numbers have potentially unlimited size, Serpent numbers wrap around 2256. For example, in Serpent
the expression 3^(2^254) suprisingly evaluates
to 1"
funkenstein_: hmm
that sounds interesting, i wonder how
that is quantified
Adlai: aiui, you could only stall nodes of either network up
to
the amount of computation you're willing
to subsidize
Adlai: or maybe,
they nailgunned eachother simultaneously
funkenstein_: so I can put a non-halting program into
the blockchain, and all counterparty nodes will stall?
danielpbarron: Anything
that one could ever do with Ethereum, one can now do with Bitcoin and Counterparty. << i guess
that's
the final nail in ethereum's coffin
danielpbarron: well dang .. i didn't know
they added
that nonsense
nubbins`: TIL i own a 7" single
that's worth $85
danielpbarron: oh ethereum shares
the #2 spot with counterparty which isn't remotely close
to being
the same
thing despite what
this article suggests
Adlai: the excitingness of "21" is bounded only by
the imagination of
the ignorant
danielpbarron: 16. Circle:
Taking
the bitcoin out of bitcoin << certainly a
theme here
fluffypony: oh and
there we go, Ethereum at number 2
fluffypony: the 20th most exciting Bitcoin startup is something
trying
to replace Bitcoin with a massively centralised system?
fluffypony: "20. Ripple: Fixing
the flaws in bitcoin"
trinque: when I start refining human flesh into foodstuffs we can
talk about sinfully earned money
trinque: anyhow, clarity of
the morning is; I'm
through with her
trinque: nubbins`: no,
this is in reference
to my startup of 5 years which has actual revenue
danielpbarron: It has been reported
that generating a false negative is easy, perhaps as simple as using images of
two notes, side-by-side, rather
than just one. << LOL
nubbins`: since we know
the shape of
the constellation :D
nubbins`: fwiw
the detection algo would be impossibly easy
to replicate
danielpbarron: would be quite funny if
they put
the detection algorithm into an open source image manipulator
nubbins`: (how? because
the yellow
tank contains black ink!)
nubbins`: i know for a fact
that my wide-format Epson doesn't
nubbins`: FWIW i
think it's only laser printers
that do
this
thestringpuller: asciilifeform:
this is why you have nubbins` screen print your ransome notes on some high class paper
punkman: interesting
that UK adopted EURion for GBP
Adlai: they're all using
the same constellation? -_-
punkman: W.Gibson has a fun bit about "the ugliest shirt in
the world" which allows
the wearer
to not be recognized by CV systems
Adlai: and
to prevent withholding, no news is also news