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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 13:10:55 BingoBoingo: For all I know the DDoS is done by the Cloudflare sales department
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: sadly for production server I don't think it's useful to change the IP; I suppose we are lucky in that it's now rather than after eulora release.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 19:25:34 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here, the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send the relevant .pcap files over please"
asciilifeform: if diana_coman or lobbes get to this 1st, i will later sign & mirror the patch .
diana_coman: I wanted to say that I read a bit around the shlex python thing too but I never used it before so still unsure re direct fix
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 18:44:29 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc asciilifeform fixed this and i think also issued vpatch
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941077 << looks like this bug i ~introduced~ in 'sept_fixes', not fixed
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 15:44:59 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc asciilifeform fixed this and i think also issued vpatch
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941077 - I don't see it in either of the last 2 vpatches; fwiw I looked in the reader's code too: the tokenizer treats the ' as start of a quote and then fails for not having the end ' it expects
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 18:42:28 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: From what I can see it looks like they went ahead and blackholed a portion of the IP space. half the rockchips, dulap, and another IP
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 12:47:56 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: atm we still have 'kolhoz' bandwidth, i.e. 'all you can eat', but i expect if we put up an image paster it'll saturate the pipe 100% . ( naturally if mircea_popescu wants to make arrangements to get monster pipe specially for this experiment, i'ma work with him to make it go. but promises to be costly. )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 11:31:29 asciilifeform: i vaguely suspected btw that all the major bugs in bot would be found in disconnect handling. piz pipe is so stable that not seen naturally-occurring disconnect yet...
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here, the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send the relevant .pcap files over please"
BingoBoingo: ? sucediendo." << Is this the sort of response I should send before scheduling a sit down?
BingoBoingo: "Can I get a packet dump from at least one of the floods before sitting down and discussing options for moving forward. The graphs seem to show when activity is happening, but they lack information that could be used to put together a mitigation strategy. Is the incoming traffic UDP, TCP, ICMP, etc? Is there any information that suggests an origin or origins. Hay una falta de información forense que pueda ayudar a evaluar lo que est?
mp_en_viaje: so i can't really say anything intelligent on THAT score.
mp_en_viaje: the 7007245 hits for 24 days of june (2016!) ~averages~ to almost 300k a day, meaning it peaks above that, meaning etcetera. ima stop quoting these, but the idea is : i can't even currently guess whether your contact deems 1 connection/second a ddos. maybe it does, nfi, no way to tell from those derpy graphs. is it 10 ? 100 ? dude has no fucking idea either
BingoBoingo: I do
mp_en_viaje: and so following, i could keep quoting these, from http://trilema.com/2016/the-internet-of-shit/ to whatever, http://trilema.com/2017/remember-the-security-hole-automattic-refused-to-fix-back-in-2014/?b=the%20live&e=log#select shows, specifically, 202136 hits between 05:56:35 and 06:01:56, that's then 1k connections/second or thereabouts...
BingoBoingo: Oscar sent this graph last night http://pizarroisp.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/recentgraph.png I suppose I can ask again for a packet dump or some sort of information on the origin of the traffic.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/i-dont-get-it/ 21217 / 12 / 3600 = .5/s sustained over half a day, with a normal distribution reasonably peaked at 8 or so /s, ie another 6-7Mbps item.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 13:05:51 asciilifeform: ddosism i suspect will follow all attempts to build republican isp. and will appear at the maximally effective time, i.e. when resources have already been sunk into buildout, long-term contracts with pipe seller signed, etc
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940843 << it's very difficult to evaluate key metrics because of the extrmely poor quality of available data. a certain amt of "ddos" is ~extremely~ common, and in no way or manner related to anything or to any degree intentional. i periodically published on trilema lists of what'd qualify as "ddos" by 1999 standards say. let me fish some out, why not.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, my deployed code is pressed up to active_disconnect; I'll check the following 2
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, iirc asciilifeform fixed this and i think also issued vpatch
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 15:38:00 mp_en_viaje: hey diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-search?q=i+don%27t+intend&chan=trilema
BingoBoingo: I did not
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: From what I can see it looks like they went ahead and blackholed a portion of the IP space. half the rockchips, dulap, and another IP
asciilifeform: at this pt i'ma take whatever advice mp_en_viaje offers , re how to work these.
mp_en_viaje: im trying to provide you folk with what i expect you want (or else nfi why you're discussing it here), ie an experienced sounding board for your business
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i already said that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940475 ; this hasn't changed notwithstanding it seems the one day is turning into a long weekend.
mp_en_viaje: hey diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-search?q=i+don%27t+intend&chan=trilema
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i already said that fuck
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940981 - fwiw I think this is true 100%.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, as there was no pizarro in 2016, i dun think this has any bearing ? or wha tare we talking about ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, sure, but that's unrelated. "i had not what to sell" is not acceptable answer to "why not sold ?" much like "maybe it just dissapeared" is not acceptable ansser to "what happened to content of safe", as per prior discussion re tech and magic.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-03-31 18:48:02 gernika: asciilifeform: fyi I made a trip to eetools HQ today and came back home with a curiosity: EmMax plus rom emulator - connects to LPT port - comes with console app. It does *not* however appear to support dos - win95 is as far back as it goes it seems.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i aint actually disagreeing in re 'must sell'. but pointing out that also must have ~what~ to sell.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: thimbronion is in line for a rockchip. First contact was as gernika where he killed his GPG key by signing "I agree"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dun have any experience selling phantoms
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't know why you keep saying that. sales is neither an optional nor a coinditional part of business.
mp_en_viaje: mod6 + benvulpes bought it iirc, and they did ~same for a while, then eventually you reorganized it as a venture that's specifically not to include my say lest i wreck it, which incidentally i've respected to date, notwithstandin gall sorts of incidental ineptitudes baked in all through.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i haven't the capital to take it out, or a where-to.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, no, i know.
mp_en_viaje: you said something that doesn't read but nevertheless implies "oh, this multi-dc thing is what i proposed and you rejected in 2017". then upon review it comes out i never rejected. then you link somewhere else where we discuss how, if pizarro ever manages to get any business, it can grow.
mp_en_viaje: i don't get wtf you're saying here.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, did i miss something in there ? seems to me that "this alternative is unrelated to a proposal by asciilifeform back in 2017 when he couldn't get anyone to usefully answer from ru or india" would be a much closer summary.
ericbot: Logged on 2017-10-06 12:07:30 asciilifeform: re colocation, i have 1 positive answer from india; 0 from ru ( apparently ru folx are decent XOR likedoingbusinesswithforeign ? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this. and ftr i still think it would have been mistake. just a different mistake.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-09-27 asciilifeform: maxim_mivo: very good. i will open an account . my pgp public key is in http://www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-27#1004197 << i am with you here, there doesn't seem to be a problem ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i know you don't liek to read castles, but this thread b/w asciilifeform and diana_coman's heathen isp man is pertinent.
asciilifeform: i think moar than 40
mp_en_viaje: i asked from the pov of pizarro ; what % of its business is related to fg deployment. i guessed a bout 40%, could be wrong, maybe it's only 20%, w/e.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: shall i post'em ? i dun think was ever fully laid in public
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't believe the iron buildout was actually an asset for pizarro, business wise.
mp_en_viaje: hey, as long as we're doing wants i have a list right here. shall i go through it ?
mp_en_viaje: i dun recall what pizarro budget was, but six digits iirc ?
asciilifeform: i.e. build clone of 'amazon' using loose change budget ?
mp_en_viaje: over all these possibilities, your entrenched, utter inability to actually produce business sits as a complete smog cover. i had been harping about how you have a limited time to life and either you use it to live or die for years because o fexactly this reason : now when the push comes to shove, who exactly is the lifeblood we're talking about ?
mp_en_viaje: 2. you folk move on to simply hiring space from 500+ random internet isps, and snowshoe your load around. this requires a lot more technical acumen than i've seen so far, seeing how you've not as much as managed to implement in practice bash scripts given on trilema for mass-interneting, the level of avg 12yo script kiddie.
asciilifeform: i dun come up with these from thin air..
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dunthink enemy gives rat's arse re loggers. objective was to take out piz.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'all's fair in war', i enlisted for this headache, no one forced.
asciilifeform: i dun even disagree with mp_en_viaje's drop if you can't win -- but the flip side is that must NOT surrender if still could.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would mean Antel provides the RJ45 for each box, each RJ45 billed seperately. This would increase the complexity of administration and billing, but I don't know materially different it could be from the current situation in practice.
BingoBoingo: Another, uglier option, is we either keep latecho for the cage and power or move to an Antel datacenter, explicitly become an Antel reseller where each box gets its own incoming line. I fail from this chair to see substantial increase in leverage from this route.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm not even convinced that there ~is~ a 'sane choice of location' .
BingoBoingo suspects naively that airlifting to an IXP will push us towards Austria/Turkey/Poland/Belarus/etc on the other side of the Atlantic. On this side of the Atlantic mebbe Fortaleza, Brasil/Venezuela/Mexico/Panama but I suspect Panama is an awful choice
asciilifeform: this , i won't speculate about, will leave it to who has the capital to finance such an experiment.
asciilifeform: a set of broom closets in their houses, i expect.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: mno. during ddos, whole pipe was dead. whereas atm e.g. uy1 loads, ditto ossasepia, but not dulap or qntra << Ah, here I was trying to load qntra
asciilifeform: a 'civilized solution', to be absolutely pedantic , includes both 1+2. i.e. nomoar blackholing, AND pipe that is reasonably weather-resistant.
BingoBoingo: For all I know the DDoS is done by the Cloudflare sales department
asciilifeform: ddosism i suspect will follow all attempts to build republican isp. and will appear at the maximally effective time, i.e. when resources have already been sunk into buildout, long-term contracts with pipe seller signed, etc
BingoBoingo: And I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, between Gossipd and Latecho's proposed BGP block, this time limited to the target addresses.
asciilifeform: i dun know of others.
asciilifeform: re ddos ( supposing to take latech's word for the assertion that it ~is~ a ddos , rather than pipe provider playing dulap-I-style games ) -- fact of the matter, it dun cost very much to saturate a 200Mb/s pipe.
asciilifeform: i still dunget why the 4 target addrs and not 5 or 1, each flood seems to take out whole pipe anyway
mp_en_viaje: putation for being a nigger club, there’s no fucking way you’re turnin’ that shit around, unless you nuke the place with said niggers inside it and once I get the niggers out, which I will, who are you planning to replace them with, because if you think all of a sudden all the hot white girls of the world gonna start showin’ up in droves, you’re seriously out of your fucking minds. Their response, and I quote, “y
mp_en_viaje: cefloor totally surrounded by eye witnesses. Well as a professional DJ for many, many years I have often been hired specifically to drive out the niggers by multitudinous club / bar owners and each and every single time this request was made, I always asked whatever dumbass drug dealer / pimp on the side nightclub / bar owner, are you sure, because their money’s is just as green as everybody else’s and once you have a re
mp_en_viaje: "Eventually as with everything else, all good things, come to an end to include one of the best DJ joints I’ve ever had. At first, after a year of totally transforming their clientele as they had requested, they started cutting back my nights. When I started there, the place was overrun by niggers, not black people, niggers. You know the kind of fucking animals that shoot up the place or stab a motherfucker on a packed dan
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile girl in tall hat came in, "i come bearing many shishkebaps and things", so ima brb.
mp_en_viaje: i suppose the manner in which the insanity survives is that it comes with a built-in indirection layer aka "romanul poate face misto de orice".
mp_en_viaje: "And finally choice # 3 fuck her and fuck you, stay put, ship you both back home so I can keep doing my fucking thing and make something, anything other than what I’ve become, an old, angry, broke, business owner, still fucking chasing my dreams of entertaining people by speakin’ my fuckin’ mind."
mp_en_viaje: "Choice # fucking 2, shitcan my entertainment journey to get your seriously medically challenged mother back home, 4000 fucking miles away from all my success, close to our useless fucking families to help us raise you, so you manage to make it to your first fucking birthday, in a place where I didn’t have a single fucking contact and even if my father who acted like he owned that whole fucking town he’d lived in for 20
mp_en_viaje: it's called il capitano for a reason, i guess.
mp_en_viaje: "Choice # 1, I could’ve been your average selfish prick, divorced your mom, stayed put & rode that motherfucker out till the wheels fell off, that being my insanely successful burgeoning radio / nightclub & mobile DJ careers which would’ve immediately brought me mountains of money, piles of pussy and lasting local fame and God only knows what else in the long run. I gotta admit, that was a pretty sweet fuckin’ option."
diana_coman: yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with anything ie it's just another sort of spam.
mp_en_viaje: Hi, I’m John D., your father and in this episode of Rated ARM TV, I’m gonna tell you the story of how I personally dismantled my own already incredibly awesome life in an attempt to give you, my one and only son a much better one than I had as a child, why it had to be done, and why this type of sacrificial behavior is one of the main ingredients of being A Real Man."
mp_en_viaje: "As a man with a fucked up childhood myself, not wanting to genocide yours, therefore breaking the unbreakable pattern that selfish pricks like my parents never even attempted to break, I decided to jump in on this whole parenting thing head fucking first with both fucking feet. “A Real Man always takes his responsibility as a parent seriously, even if it fucking ruins every other aspect of his life.”
mp_en_viaje: I wouldn’t have any God damn luck at all, so that was the exact fucking moment in time when your mom, my very fucking soon to be ex-fucking-wife, got fucking pregnant with you and extended my sentence and community service for another twenty God damn years." << o look, military dood too, to no-one's surprise.
mp_en_viaje: e fact that I was going to have to pay for all of it, welcome to ‘Merica, I had to make a couple of hard fucking choices on my own. At the time, I was finished with the military, or better yet, the politics of the assholes I got stuck working with in the service and my marriage and I was ready to get fucking divorced and start my whole fucking life over, again, from fucking scratch, again, but if it weren’t for bad luck,
mp_en_viaje: "Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I don’t love you son, I love you more than I ever thought I could possibly love anyone or anything, including myself, which I’ve done plenty of, I’m just saying that having you wasn’t a fucking choice, it wasn’t my God damn choice anyway and because that fucking choice was made for me without an ounce of God damn consultation or input from me whatsofuckingever, in spite of th
mp_en_viaje: you know, i once knew a girl made by one of these. she was... pretty well traumatized.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: by that point I suspect it's the fantasy of a fantasy in a fantasy really.
mp_en_viaje: Oh sure, you can wear a condom or cum in her mouth, as long as she doesn’t poke a fuckin’ hole in that bitch or spit the contents out through a fucking Krazy Straw, directly into her own gash. She can even be on birth control, if she fuckin’ takes it. She could give you a hand job in a parking lot behind a convenience store on a warm sunny day, just make sure to cut off her fucking hand once she’s done. As far as I k
diana_coman: I wish they'd start with inventing at least a less predictable rant really; just as warm up for all those electricities they'll surely invent.
mp_en_viaje: anyone i'm missing besides http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema an
mp_en_viaje: neways, i guess it's high time i edit the "logs" link on trilema sidebar