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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887861 << hysterically enough, mcd actually trying to position itself "upmarket", yes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:51 trinque: if they had more money, that mcds would sprout a whole suburb of them around it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887855 << occured already, the heredia-alajuela banzone is entirely this. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:40 trinque: I take these to be the people that shouldn't have houses having been given too much, not *their* decay. they're doing better than they've ever been.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887832 << there's some meat on this skeleton, recall chucka burning down sovok wood flooring to make cookpot go ☝︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: Much of that was likely accumulated intentionally via dumpster mining
trinque: man I hate people that let materials accumulate like that. oh, that's my palette collection, and here's a single tile, just in case
asciilifeform: ... is it also 'hoped' that he'll 'rent out the space in his nostrils' lol
BingoBoingo: Here we have an elusive creature. A property offered for rent with hope the person renting it will subdivide it into smaller rentals: http://archive.is/GAXEp
BingoBoingo: The mumps outbreak of similar character to US University mumps outbreaks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo recall this ? in that coffee room.
BingoBoingo: The standard for a pension or residencia estudiantil is 1.5-5 bed lengths deep and 3-5 bed widths wide. But unlike apartments they tend to come furnished. With "placares" even.
asciilifeform: trinque: even in BingoBoingostan , asciilifeform had a hell of a time drinking from 'the mumps cup' to the terrified faces of onlookers
Mocky: instead of an offer for this one prospect I got "one more interview, next week" but still imo looks probable
asciilifeform: Mocky: how did the work search go ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes prolly has the details.
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc in usa you get to pick b/w 'vaccine is the devil's work' and 'load'im up on errything, incl. some radwaste for good measure' ☟︎
trinque: in related cardboardization, the girl and I were looking into live vaccines for hypothetical spawn. apparently they're being phased out by the derps that be.
asciilifeform: guten tag, Mocky
BingoBoingo: More bottom of the market favela finds http://archive.is/T2QsT http://archive.is/npB22 From here the next step down includes improvised shelters, refrigerator boxes, and actual holes in exterior walls.
asciilifeform: interestingly, they're building a tram (!) also. apparently the last lizards who disassembled the original washintonistani trams in 1970s, have finally croaked. ( new tram, however, will go strictly to/from the communal flats and the bureaucratic shitholes where 'employed' )
asciilifeform: but good % of the folx signing the leases, are graduates
BingoBoingo: AHA, like the Peruana's pension tucked behind a kiosko!
asciilifeform: trinque: the 'next turn of the screw' appears to be... american ver. of sovok 'communal flats'. they're building'em here, near university, to the exclusion of near errything else
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> trinque: they're living in cardboard, iirc. new construction in specially-designated reservations. << AHA, Carrasco where the stores have parking lots! Just like US suburbs!
trinque: right, so economics alone are keeping them from the wasp nest neighborhoods, which is my point.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Starbucks is not classy anymore. It is the low rent knockoff version of McCafe now ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: they're living in cardboard, iirc. new construction in specially-designated reservations.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Here the culture views McDonalds as classy.
trinque: I hear hipsters are doing this in detroit these days, not even all getting killed by the natives
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: may recall, at one time asciilifeform was infected with crackpot idea, 'why not buy old stone thing in bmore'. actually went on site, talked to the orcs. concluded that proj was massively -ev, couldnt afford to defend properly.
trinque: if they had more money, that mcds would sprout a whole suburb of them around it. ☟︎
trinque: if they had it, would buy. same reason as when I was in CR there was a huge line of natives for the mcd's and starbucks
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: observe how even to the poorest orcs, it dun occur to build dwelling from cardboards
asciilifeform: in ro the shoemaker did similar thing, mircea_popescu described in detail
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's called... hruscheba
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I wager the uruguayan suburbs are favela-tier << Favelas with a lot of concrete
asciilifeform: trinque: tbf i did not go to the favela. but inside the city walls, the worst dwellings were approx baltimore-type.
trinque: where the american burbs oughta be.
trinque: I wager the uruguayan suburbs are favela-tier
asciilifeform: ( substantial, as i understand, 'diy project', to make it livable. but some people -- did )
asciilifeform: at one time it was possible to buy title to old rocket shaft for approx what cardboard house costs.
asciilifeform: trinque: there's rich folx living in old rocket shafts in nebraska even.
trinque: I take these to be the people that shouldn't have houses having been given too much, not *their* decay. they're doing better than they've ever been. ☟︎
asciilifeform: with the brickwork forming bonus shrapnel.
asciilifeform: trinque: they scatter like pinyata.
trinque: asciilifeform: was hilarious when harvey came through and ripped these brick facades off the suburban wasp nests
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:31 asciilifeform: i've confronted various (nominally literate) ameri-folx with the brick litmus, was surprised at one pt how many had nfi
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887824 << yet you persist believing such a thing as a schoolbook is available to them. ☝︎
shinohai: it appears homes were slightly better constructed there BingoBoingo ... most "factory worker houses" in smaller towns here are old duplexes, with asbestos siding no less.
asciilifeform: i've confronted various (nominally literate) ameri-folx with the brick litmus, was surprised at one pt how many had nfi ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:04 asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc they already build this : for 'supermax' prison. but i expect the tech will 'spread to konsoomer', yes
asciilifeform: observe that it is very easy to tell with naked eye
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we have these here; typically the brickwork is decorative
asciilifeform: i'ma leave the item in, tho, if mircea_popescu thinks it's a + idea
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Typical condensed milk plant era construction in hometown https://archive.is/YiMUX https://archive.is/HjtFv
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:59 asciilifeform: unrelatedly ( or maybe not?? ) , asciilifeform found that ch16 is turning into just about a miniature number theory schoolbook, will defo have to be trimmed
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887746 << not necessarily. try and find such schoolbook online. ☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/phantastes-para-leer/ << Trilema -- Phantastes. Para leer.
mircea_popescu: dat kasparov brand chess knife thing is epic. ima use it.
asciilifeform: naturally will claim to inhabit one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a point tho! i nearly forgot that buffett ~sells~ cardboard hovels.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know what celebrity endorsements are ? "eat your gruel, tommy, just like Nigglet McAthlete does!"
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:48 hanbot: <asciilifeform> i'm surprised they dun build from ~that~ yet. << i met a chick from the architecture dept at the nat'l uni here whose professed goal was to see all places with native bamboo build with it exclusively. possibly the spiders get her first, but otherwise, "coming soon"...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887728 << one of the http://trilema.com/2016/pili/#selection-87.0-87.345 pilis i guess ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: but d00d brags about it. ( or did, last i tuned in )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i haven't been to his house, lol, so cannot attest to the troof/disinfo.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't believe a single thing pr claims about buffett, seeing how that's the customary treatment for proven liars.
shinohai: I bought specifically because was brick and has actual hardwood floors, none of that composite/laminate shit.
mircea_popescu: because so spake the goddess or some dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: riiight, cuz "organizing labour" in the sense of http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain/ is perfectly possible but organizing purchasing in the sense of killing the fucking degradation of life and every niggled standing in the way is perfectly impossible.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had an ancient ro piece about this
asciilifeform: i suppose it's still possible, even in usa, to buy lands far away from city, getting out of 'zoning law', and import white marble from italy and build castle. if yer rockefeller. i dun know rockefeller tho, so i've never set foot in 1 of these and have nfi re what specifically is involved.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: there's maybe half a mil of these on whole continent, and nobody's building any moar of'em << My hometown has large swaths of brick single family homes built to house workers for now defunct "my pet goat" condensed milk plant.
mircea_popescu: if they abdicate from this, and "just want to", they belong rowing galley.
mircea_popescu: there's no possibility of economic activity outside of human buyer judging things
mircea_popescu: as they fucking should.
asciilifeform: betcha the 'lucky' buyers still owe their 800k.
shinohai: There was "subdivision" of new constructed homes nearby that had to be abandoned ~3 yrs ago, all were built using sheetrock from China which molded within weeks of being installed.
asciilifeform: shinohai: there's maybe half a mil of these on whole continent, and nobody's building any moar of'em
asciilifeform: shinohai: i fully expect that they ~will~ find how to make the hovels even moar starvation-cheap, whether cement or inkjetted styrofoam or whatnot. and the same folx who pocket 800k nao, will pocket the 1mil they'll mandatorily sell for.
shinohai: I live in comfy brick home built in 1950's or so. Feels many times more solid than average McMansion
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last i knew , most of said graduates nowadays , get to take their arse, and its 250k of debt, to work in bureaucracy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887720 << this is so. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: They've got fast food housing here too https://casa.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-459410839-isomodulos-uruguay-todo-en-isopanel-al-mejor-precio-_JM
asciilifeform: the '800s' have 0 to do with the cost of the junk they build from.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 02:36 asciilifeform: it's hilarious, the hovel i'm in, at least has steel frames. nearby they recently built whole street of 100% cardboard/plastic , 'ONLY low 800s!' reads the billboard. 800k orcbux, that is.
asciilifeform: shinohai: the typical wooden hovel folx live inside in usa, costs maybe 1000 in cardboard/presswood. sheep still get sheared via http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887539 . ☝︎
shinohai: gah, was supposed to be archive of https://singularityhub.com/2018/03/18/this-3d-printed-house-goes-up-in-a-day-for-under-10000/\
asciilifeform: eh cement is the 1 kind of factory they still have errywhere in usa
shinohai: Coming soon to a ghetto near you: http://archive.is/I07K6
BingoBoingo: There's still the problem of making all that ferrocement
asciilifeform: i expect it'll work in the 'self driving car'(tm) direction instead. 'drm' door locks itself, house now == jail
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: presumably with those demolition charges they already issue'em..
BingoBoingo: The US isn't Uruguay. The US can't afford to make ferrocement the residential building material. How will the police break in?
asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc they already build this : for 'supermax' prison. but i expect the tech will 'spread to konsoomer', yes ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: recall how edison was genuinely convinced that the fyootoor of furniture was... ferrocement << Plenty of people here living the complete ferrocement like without the roof.
shinohai: Edison would be proud that one can print 3-D house using cement, with furniture built into walls.
asciilifeform: requires opposable thumb to set off.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: racoon trap interestingly is ~100% species-selective