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BingoBoingo: Type-03 and others in
their "export version" are so chambered
decimation: wouldn't surprise me if
the north vietnamese were supplied with american 5.56
decimation: most of
their 'allies' were communist moles
decimation: was it built for
their little brown brothers in vietnam?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
There is a variation of
the Chinese
type whateverthefuck chambered in American 5.56, Russian 5.xx didn't exist yet
decimation: point is,
there's a
third party involved. but crypto doesn't require a
third party
to machine
the keys
BingoBoingo: <trinque> in fact we both value constraints, just
that yours are in your noggin and I want mine in
the
thing << Knowing
that a
thing fails deadly is a value all its own.
decimation: but in
that case
the end user isn't capable of crafting his key
decimation: asciilifeform: makers of fine locks often retain
the 'master key list'
trinque: in fact we both value constraints, just
that yours are in your noggin and I want mine in
the
thing
trinque: I hear ya; still I always like systems where I can declare constraints and have
the
thing blow up should
the constraint be violated
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I want
to say "no fuck you, never gnome anything, never kde anything, so help you flamethrower" << in my limited experience mostly involves checking version of packages of building with delete key
trinque: I want
to say "no fuck you, never gnome anything, never kde anything, so help you flamethrower"
trinque: pkg_add can be "friendlier" in
terms of happily pulling down all kinds of deps
BingoBoingo: And
trying
to walk someone
through
that is/(would be) hell
trinque: ^
there are plenty of
times when portage just
tells you
to fuck off and fix it yourself
BingoBoingo: <trinque>
that imo is
the killer feature << Portage seems
too much a user friendly feature for OpenBSD.
They have features, but avoid
the kind
that attract users with "easy"
trinque: that imo is
the killer feature
trinque: ports seems almost
the way
there, but I don't see a way for example
to globally mask a package or option as you can with portage
BingoBoingo: trinque> anyone ever
tried portage on openbsd? << port are supported and pkg_src are supported porting portage
to my knowledge is a work in progress or abandonware
trinque: anyhow it's a nice
thought
trinque: redirect from
the new site
to
that from
the google result
trinque: anyone ever
tried portage on openbsd?
trinque: gentoo is a labyrinth within which one
transcends
the derpitude
mod6: ah good deal,
thanks.
mod6: i've used gentoo exactly 2x: for
testing bitcoind hah
BingoBoingo: Also some gentoo people spent enough
time on OpenRC
that OpenRC cannot be easily disappeared
mod6: oh. ok, didn't even know
that.
mod6: (is it
the only hold out left?)
mod6: what about all
the "linux is dead" memes?
BingoBoingo: <mod6> You
think
that gentoo would be better
than openbsd? << Not better, just vastly different
targets
BingoBoingo: mod6: Sure. Gentoo is still at its heart Linux. As best as I can
tell having lived with it as sole OS for a few months OpenBSD compared
to linux is more of an exotica like HP/UX or Slowaris.
mod6: You
think
that gentoo would be better
than openbsd?
mod6: BingoBoingo: all of
this was very recently
tested on gentoo. both 64 & 32 bit.
thestringpuller: I really need
to run OpenBSD soon just
to start learning it.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> asciilifeform: huh. im not sure what'd
that be. i did a lot of
testing on amd64, ever saw
that error. i did see something similar just now
though on openbsd, but i suspect
that something
totally different because, well, openbsd. << I'll go on
the record as saying OpenBSD should not be considered "gold standard" unix in
the way gentoo is. OpenBSD goes way out of its way
to prevent user from hanging self.
mod6: the build im
trying
to work
through on openbsd uses like (I can't remember off
the
top of my head) 4.2.x or something
mod6: most of our
testing we were successful with seemed
to be gcc 4.4.5
mod6: asciilifeform: huh. im not sure what'd
that be. i did a lot of
testing on amd64, ever saw
that error. i did see something similar just now
though on openbsd, but i suspect
that something
totally different because, well, openbsd.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Seriously. I haven't seen
the old lady sockpuppet
though in a while
hanbot: BingoBoingo ahaha what a horrorshow.
that guy's idiocy is like kudzu.
trinque: if it's small stuff should be able
to ifdef it
nubbins`: so far, at least, i
think
there's only minor changes needed for
the various platforms
BingoBoingo: platform specific patch sets may end up being a necessary evil, even if
there isn't a full split
mod6: anyway, food for
thought.
mod6: iirc ascii mentioned it, said he'd maintain
the pogo project. it's not a horrible idea.
nubbins`: the
two auto.sh are close enough
nubbins`: ah, i
think it's a bit early for
that
mod6: we really need
two branches of code now i
think.
mod6: if you wanna do
that cross compiling stuff, you gotta use ascii's original one.
mod6: ok, so remember, version
that we have for auto.sh (v0.0.5 & v0.0.5-32) are NOT
to be used for cross compiling.
mod6: so i got everything
to compile on obsd, but getting segfaults when
trying
to run
the static binary. core dump looks like its something with
threading...
nubbins`: not sure if he's
targeting
the same, or
the pogo via portatronic
danielpbarron: ironically enough,
the same computer
that successfully built bitcoind for pogo way back when
the project first began
mod6: there is a version number in
the
top of
the auto.sh script, which version are you using?
danielpbarron: i
think
that was me, and it's most likely a problem with my computer
mod6: many of us were able
to build, not just me
this
time ;)
mod6: yes, was
tested on a hand full of environments ( as stated in
the ADDRESS ): deb6 (64/32), gentoo (64/32), ubuntu 12/14 (64) and apparently macosx
too. not sure what you're running into.
mod6: <+ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: auto.sh leads
to 'util.h:650:8: error: ‘uint32_t’ does not name a
type' on my boxes. << what os/arch?
BingoBoingo: nefario:
Thinking about
taking up Burnside's BTC-TC code sale?
jurov is going
to bash whole day
BingoBoingo: I
thought last year was good, buy kako puts
the cess in success
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> kakobrekla: Best log error evar <<
that is pretty good hehe
pete_dushenski: alright you jokesters, i'm re-heading back out into
the world. until
tomorrow!
pete_dushenski: sounds suspiciously like "taxes are good for you and
the economy"