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trinque: in my /usr/include I see for example this "nettle" thing doing typedef u_int32_t uint32_t;
nubbins`: you could try
cazalla: lucky i am not otw to conf, i would so attach a padlock to your ear :P
trinque: asciilifeform: could boost be pulling or not pulling this type in based on some kind of config magic?
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 20:31:31; nubbins`: http://imgur.com/jCUBrdF <<< man i got really skinny after two weeks of diarrhoea
trinque: this forum post thing where people pop off with some tape fix rather than explaining what's going on
nubbins`: may have been there from the beginning
nubbins`: i don't keep a list of this type of person, mp may be interested enough to look
nubbins`: i suppose github could tell you who committed it the first time
nubbins`: and "this seems to fix it"
nubbins`: prob because one asshole somewhere along the line had a build error
trinque: holy shit no one knows why there's both a u_int32_t and a uint32_t
nubbins`: what's it sending a POST request to whatismyip.com? :D
asciilifeform: iirc, in the spot where the thing learns own ip.
asciilifeform: now that i read that patch, i notice that it does not eliminate -all- occurrences of the dns crapolade
asciilifeform: i never got around to shitting out a patch to remove the hardcoded seedz
asciilifeform: which, in turn, should not be the hardcoded idiocy
asciilifeform: once you dump dns seeder, you gotta have some live nodes (!!!) in the seed list
asciilifeform: careful with that one
nubbins`: now, lemme give this a whirl
nubbins`: for those just catching up
asciilifeform: fortunately we don't have to fill this swamp today
mircea_popescu: and that this made it into c...
jurov: butbutbut we need to support dns resolving with mongodb(r)(tm)!!!
asciilifeform: can barely make out which way the barrel points
asciilifeform: jurov: appreciate that what we are attempting with static build is like digging out one of those lugers ru kids routinely find in the ground and trying to fire it
jurov: i guess they wanted to avoid running standalone process and whatnot
mircea_popescu: the idea of loading binary modules and breaking static builds is not exactly = to nss.
mircea_popescu: i don't think nss per se is the problem here however
jurov: nss was added to "remove hacks"
trinque: debootstrap failed mysteriously the first time
trinque: asciilifeform: said poettering to the porcelain, parting is such sweet sorrow
asciilifeform: 'friar sank to his knees! sacred sensation! miracle proclaimed! blessed defecation!'
trinque: asciilifeform: stop trying to stifle people's creativity
asciilifeform: soooooooo many ways to arrange four bytes.
trinque begins a debootstrap to see what it craps in sys/types.h
asciilifeform: (or insert a more appropriate prelude to a punishment to fit the crime)
asciilifeform: someone actually wrote that.
mircea_popescu: i will have the heads of the ab-initio people tho.
trinque: comment above: /* But these were defined by ISO C without the first `_'. */
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just pick one of the preexisting sluts and then prevent washing, sure.
trinque: asciilifeform: so there's u_int32_t defined in sys/types.h but not uint32_t; I would be interested to see what sys/types.h holds for the other folks
mircea_popescu: and that, incidentally, is the objection ot poettering : it's not a matter of "doing". the man simply has no conception of right and wrong.
asciilifeform: because it is uncommon for the enemy to -invent- a turd ab initio
asciilifeform: in many cases (quite arguably dns included) the turd was an ad-hoc hack from the days of arpa but was cemented in place because guess-why.
mircea_popescu: "so why are you all pushing pki ? it's fucktarded beyond reason" "no look, it has a whiff of salami right in this spot!"
mircea_popescu: "why do we have dns ? it sucks! " "yes but that's how nsa could figure out how to diddle via libnss"
mircea_popescu: you KNOW this shit even got to be used in the first place because usg said so.
asciilifeform: even if they never met in the flesh
asciilifeform: zawinski lives next to lanier in my head and this is not accidental nor misleading
asciilifeform: i actually find it interesting how astonishingly well-clustered the 'digerati' set is.
mircea_popescu: "unfortunately, the way we made this foss software is that it behaves exactly like windows"
asciilifeform: ^ the correct thing to expect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: don't expect them to walk in voluntarily
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mircea_popescu: "i have tried and so nobody should criticize the steaming pile of dumb dung "
asciilifeform: hunt the gnomes and drag them kicking, screaming, to the stake.
mircea_popescu: pure anomie, this shit. idiots "doocracying" with no conception of right and wrong whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: if whoever the fuck is responsible for this crapever shows up in wot he's getting my -.
asciilifeform: there is also the overall 'rust' resulting from no one ever building static anything whasoever for years.
mircea_popescu: who did this ?
asciilifeform: there is no conceivable technical justification for it, beyond sloth.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cannot fathom why it was made this way, other than for the usual reasons.
mircea_popescu: is it to load whatever early ityeration of nsa diddle in systems ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in so far as i can tell, the problem in question is entirely shot in the head by my dns removal patch.
mircea_popescu: is it to fit it on w/e arm shits ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you even have a clue why the fuck libnss is made that way ?
asciilifeform: oughta be in the next patch.
asciilifeform: iirc i killed 'loadable modules' on pogotron but forgot to disable the now-useless mod utils.
mircea_popescu: that you don't randomly stick binary in my ass is not a "many things"
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for thestringpuller from 2 to 1 with note: overpromised and underdelivered on task he set himself for qntra
asciilifeform: but the list of 'should but doesn't' appears to grow, grow, every time we turn over a rock.
asciilifeform: many things 'should' xxxxx.
mircea_popescu: like fucking code is supposed to do.
mircea_popescu: i can see why this would be useful as an alternative method for very peculiar situations
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 14:54:13; assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:26:58; nubbins`: "glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration."
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084116 << whoever the fuck came up with this "binary module loading" bs should be found and named.
cazalla: !rate thestringpuller 1 overpromised and underdelivered on task he set himself for qntra
asciilifeform: 'i wus sentenced to hang not heads-off'
asciilifeform: (some prisoner in usa got a temporary stay of execution on this argument.)
asciilifeform: 'too fat to hang'
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 14:05:13; lobbes: I'd like to believe if I just focus on myself and amass enough wealth I can weasel my way through time
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084081 <<< this, for the record, is kinda ridiculous.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 18:32:52; asciilifeform: engineers, who (as shown by the 'monolith' gedankenexperiment, search logs) often do not really apprehend how lizard-reich and its subordinate bureaucracies really think.
mircea_popescu: nice lordosis on the chick... that babe knows how to party.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently he set the record
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:59:59; thestringpuller: haven't been able to contact cazalla
cazalla: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084247 <<< to be fair, you didn't try until 4-5 hours ago
mircea_popescu: lol first time this decade ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu even wrote an essay on the subject.
mircea_popescu: lol notbad. what is this ?
asciilifeform: ^ for the record.
asciilifeform: ther for treason against Friend Computer, since none of them are allowed to touch the paint, go near the hallway, or talk about their mission, and they're all charged with enforcing the rules on one another.'
asciilifeform: yone who breaks the rules is a Commie Mutant Traitor, subject to the death penalty. Much of the game revolves around the consequences of the security levels. For instance, Friend Computer might assign a team of Red Troubleshooters to re-paint a hallway that ought to be Orange but was painted Yellow by mistake the Commie Mutant Traitors. It's quite likely in such a case that the Troubleshooters will all end up shooting each o
asciilifeform: 'In Paranoia, everything has a colour-coded security level (from Infrared up to Ultraviolet) and everybody has a clearance on the same scale. You are not allowed to touch, or have any dealings with, anything that exceeds your clearance. If you're a Red Troubleshooter, you're not allowed to walk through an Orange door. Formally, you're not really supposed to even know about the existence of anything above your clearance. An
asciilifeform: ^ that
asciilifeform: to briefly return to thread, it is not a -total- waste of time to learn what usg imagines 'security' - for its private uses - means.
asciilifeform: to jwz et al, google simply 'is' - like the sun.
trinque: "pretend to do it" << is exactly the useful thing there