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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the normal rationale is 'we rob banks because that's where the money is'
mircea_popescu: and you will notice that even as an amateur - she ALSO charges for queing, ie, after the fact.
asciilifeform: everything else re: whores may as well be at nsa in the vaults, as far as my incomplete education is concerned.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, i'm a coder because i ocasionally edit html o.O
mircea_popescu: that's usually the amateur.
asciilifeform: the other whore, is a college gurl who occasionally 'dates' old man in exchange for tuition money.
mircea_popescu: well... that'd be a crack whore.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where i live, at least to the 'street computer shop' level of apprehension, a whore is an abject and usually physically revolting creature who fellates what may well be gorillas for a hit of 'crack'
asciilifeform: when i land on mars i would like to meet these !
mircea_popescu: what'd be the difference ?
asciilifeform: 'whore' means very other thing to mircea_popescu than to the folks back on planet 3
asciilifeform: so, much as 'software' to naggum et al means something quite other than what it means to the schmuck who goes to the 'computer shop' to buy antivirus etc.;
mircea_popescu: anyway, it is at best naive to imagine whore is whore "because the money". not so. whore does not give a shit, at which point might as well be paid. because - queue. has to be sorted somehow.
mircea_popescu: heck, you can just throw some printed sheets out of a car going "gangbang at X address" and you'll get a queue
mircea_popescu: eh, that's a corner case. most men don't need to be paid to fuck.
asciilifeform: i am told that there are men who have sex for pay
asciilifeform wonders if 'whore' means the customary thing, to mircea_popescu, or if it is a mistranslation of something
mircea_popescu: elena is in no way different from evita, on this score.
mircea_popescu: thus whore always finds herself in the position where the cheapest avenue is to ask master for a hammer to shut the dumbasses up.
mircea_popescu: however, the nitwits are a) abundant and b) firmly convinced of the contrary.
mircea_popescu: it's a very simple thing : whores are, in point of fact, for the fact of having been whores, superior to "mere women", ie, the usual vanilla nitwit. this is a fact, incontrovertible as the fact that the sun is glowier than the moon.
asciilifeform: (al schwartz, incidentally, was quite fascinated with elena c. and her 'chemistry' in much the same way i am)
mircea_popescu: i suspect the old woman was the sane of the two.
asciilifeform: aha. the question of whether elena actually thought that being a chemist is being what she was, and mr o - professor of law, i will leave to the shrinks
mircea_popescu: "he is what he might have been had he been it". how about that ? insanity rampant.
mircea_popescu: i prefer to refer to that other thing as kim-il-nigger. seems adequate.
mircea_popescu: when the necks are [self]squeezed to the point a supposed "law school" publishes that tripe it is ANOTHER thing.
mircea_popescu: see... that random schmuck doesn't know which side his nose is blown is one thing.
asciilifeform: mr mold found (and then retracted, somehow) some fairly convincing evidence that mr o never actually attended classes, as student
mircea_popescu: istinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined."
mircea_popescu: "From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is d
mircea_popescu: but the point is... lemme find it.
mircea_popescu: yes, sure. fuck them, who cares what the cattle "thinks".
asciilifeform: and this kind of thing is not retractable.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of the muppet in chief : anyone ever recall that embarassment when he was calling himself a "professor of constitution" while having been a lecturer, so eventually chicago came out with "he was REGARDED as a professor" ?
mircea_popescu: see, they're all selling the same snake oil, but! harvard is "for humanity', stanford is "patriotism", mit is "for the economy", the chicks one whatever it's called is "for the arts" etc.
asciilifeform: what then happens in the 'patriotic' zoo ?
mircea_popescu: also for the economy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually mit subdivision 'lincoln labs' - and several smaller orgs - serve top tier .mil and intelligence contractors.
mircea_popescu: mit is the "for the economy" one.
asciilifeform: in gurevich's system, there was no iron piston, as in the later 'СП'. instead, there was a small quantity of... water.
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:52:11; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-04-2015#1097977 << stanford is the patriotic one. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://www.megasword.ru/index.php?pg=815 << original, afaik, example of the principle.
mircea_popescu: and anyone (tm) should be able to sever a cervical spine at twenty paces.
mircea_popescu: in fact, most sentires do not even realise they've been shot at if you miss before you reload.
mircea_popescu: for the obvious reason. bette than a knife
asciilifeform: ^ produced even today.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or these well-known items, http://world.guns.ru/ammunition/russian-special-cartridges-r.html
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:47:09; asciilifeform: how to take out sentry in any way that doesn't count as 'hand' ?
asciilifeform not familiar with this detail.
mircea_popescu: i thought houdini couldn't get it up.
asciilifeform: my mental image was inevitably a hog-tied fella, extracting a little pistol from his arse houdini-style, to end it all and avoid the torture chambers.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, why do they not say "gunmanorwoman" ?
mircea_popescu: links right into why one can't have "ideas" and all that.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the same string from different hands is different, irreducibly.
mircea_popescu: introducing the gossipd style of comms changes nothing at all, merely makes this divide palpable, like that famous japanese butcher's following of the lines already there.
asciilifeform: i walked right by, saw no more than the usual amount of stormtroopers.
mircea_popescu: the problem with ascii being like naughty bits is merely a reflection of the much larger problem : everything about a text is like that. by itself.
mircea_popescu: freeze that.
mircea_popescu: tyvm. meanwhile, i can't fucking remember where the tread on X is. so what do i do ? i ask here. and someone remembers and links.
asciilifeform: but only the pretty pictures, perverted to taste
asciilifeform: sorta like the monks who copied geometric tracts without any comprehension at all, or any regard for the actual content
mircea_popescu: he's going to freeze the text AND THE OS dontcha know.
asciilifeform: the 'digital vellum' think is maddening precisely because of the idiot scholasticism implied
mircea_popescu: and that cause almost always is, "i can not believe how stupid i've been"
mircea_popescu: rarely do people wish to forget for a purpose. it's almost always for a cause
mircea_popescu: it may be that they wanted to forget for the reason you suspect, but i do not think so.
asciilifeform: i mean, i grasp that mircea_popescu is referring to cultural death.
mircea_popescu: probably dotcom bust rattled enough of the people that they wanted to forget.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's suppose. then, when precisely did the flame go out ?
mircea_popescu: however they may try.
mircea_popescu: everyone that can read it may keep a copy, and no one else.
mircea_popescu: well, so there you have it.
mircea_popescu: it does not mean what it appears to mean.
mircea_popescu: careful with that "we".
mircea_popescu: what i am saying is that preconceived notions must be shared, for the text to be readable. these preconceptions melted.
mircea_popescu: not in the slightest.
asciilifeform: it is true.
asciilifeform: if what mircea_popescu is alluding to is that the design of usenet allowed for the possibility of 'parallel universes' where folks carry on a conversation that never reached my server - then yes.
mircea_popescu: think in variety speak terms. for it's what it is.
mircea_popescu: they only exist because you saved the unsaveable as well,
asciilifeform: google's snapshot was 99+%, for them.
mircea_popescu: just as much a part of it is invisible, and that invisibly decayed.
mircea_popescu: again - the supposition that the entire text is given in itself is naive.
asciilifeform: the thing stopped being searchable roughly two years ago.
asciilifeform: and the process was -not- continuous, as in lenin's case.
mircea_popescu: it is a property of the ice.
mircea_popescu: this is true of the lenin mausoleum as well.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, there was a pretty useful and fairly complete snapshot in the ice. and now i look in the cryostat and find rotting gibblets and alive with flies.
mircea_popescu: much like any living organism, the text can only be interpreted in its environment (here - the people who wrote it), and only as a functional, living thing.
mircea_popescu: the usenet : you can not "preserve in ice". this requires two naive presupositions : one that the text is self contained, the other that the text is fixed. neither is true.
asciilifeform: so it was time to desaparecer the spew.
asciilifeform: the folks who were making fools of themselves on usenet now want to be usg brass
assbot: Bitcoin Lacks the Properties of a Real Currency | MIT Technology Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1DV7kDG )
whaack: to end the discussion of mit O, "MIT Technology Review" http://www.technologyreview.com/view/524666/bitcoin-lacks-the-properties-of-a-real-currency/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am at this point convinced that google killed it deliberately.
mircea_popescu: ok, one at a time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: salvageable in the preserve-in-ice sense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hybrid of oxcart and airplane, where we progressively remove pieces of the ox yoke - uninteresting to me.