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trinque: why the fuck wouldn't russia think we eventually intend to first-strike them
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu key blaster is operational
trinque: so rolling from a defensive use to offensive is a matter of loading ammo, not replacing the gun
trinque: the propaganda around this shit is thick.
trinque: BingoBoingo: just read that page; sounds like yeah, can be used for either surface->air or surface->surface
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 18:02:08; mircea_popescu: the wachowski brothers of the 40s, julius and phillip
trinque is going to need to move back to TX during clitler; they'll be going apeshit over it
ascii_field: 'learn to share,' he will say.
ascii_field: very easy to not give a fuck about a border that isn't through your house.
trinque: let rama zip through the solar system once and then ask me how much I give a shit what the border of transnistria is
trinque: from an external threat perspective we're as weak as could be
ascii_field: eltsin died, ru spat out the usg cock, and is to bleed for this, yes
trinque: imagine another one came along and saw us all with nukes pointed everywhere, and it wanted the planet
BingoBoingo: ^ trinque Nike for anti-Bomber duty
gribble: Ed's Nike Missile Web Site: <http://ed-thelen.org/>; MIM-14 Nike Hercules - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-14_Nike_Hercules>; Project Nike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nike>
ascii_field: what other could there be.
jurov: trying to bleed ru out, again ☟︎
jurov: ascii_field: you know what is the only possible response to such doctrine?
trinque: also stands to reason that I can lie and say my nuke installations are all merely anti-ICBM installations
ascii_field: and that this is perfectly pedestrian fact, regardless of whether you like usg or putin or kim jong un or hitler
ascii_field: trinque: basic idea is that anything that potentially tips balance of thermonukefest in your favour, is an act of aggression from the other fella's pov
BingoBoingo: Now denying the ketorolac shot, far bigger issue
trinque: "don't worry, this is only an anti-gunman gun"
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo for sure. no such thing as perfect health for athletes.
trinque: ascii_field: sure, and an anti-missile missile launcher can probably fire the other kind too, right?
ascii_field: a machine that lets you detect other fella's rockets 5sec earlier, is really as much a lethal weapon as a nuke per se
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Athletes compete injured all the time.
jurov: ru ever tried to ship defensive systems to cuba? ☟︎
trinque: more like one of those ratcheting ties for a truck load
trinque: doesn't seem to be a question of "ok"
ascii_field: ask usa why they are not ok in cuba
jurov: and why are defensive radar/anti-missile systems not ok then?
ascii_field: even in cuba, until late '90s, they had
jurov: ascii_field: they do have stuff in nikaragua
ascii_field: last time cn had major shenanigans on ru border, there was a mini-war
ascii_field: how much would usa like ru tank corps 'training mission' in mexican border weekly ?
ascii_field: just as usa did not like them in cuba
ascii_field: jurov: more basic than this - needs to not have u.s. nukes across the street (ua, pl, etc)
jurov: alf some time ago explained russia needs buffer zone between itself and eu/nato. and that by any costs.
trinque: *trying to
trinque: ascii_field: does make all of it sound like russia's trying to maintain form, while nato's trying thwart this as it can ☟︎
pete_dushenski: who other than vlasov's army helped germans ? and why were they spared ? ☟︎
ascii_field: very forgiving. had temp. moratorium on death penalty after ww2, even.
pete_dushenski: hm. stalin painted as being too forgiving. that's a new one.
ascii_field: all the folks who helped the germans do their thing - not one in ten thousand answered with his skin.
pete_dushenski: it works my going on between two ferns with zach g.
pete_dushenski: 'power isn't how the world works!'
pete_dushenski: to the enemy, your power is never 'ok'
ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not. ☟︎
trinque: ascii_field: ah right, land was gifted to "ukraine"
jurov: and tatars were moved, too
ascii_field: trinque: in all cases but ua, accurate. the bulk of ua, on the other hand, was created by hruschev with a pencil
trinque: so the cynic in me says the whole nato/russia game is merely ironing out the details of the new russian borders, considering the above
trinque: and russians that migrated outside russia
trinque: after the USSR collapse, all these fragments of the USSR military left outside the border of russia
trinque: that seems to be the issue looking from far outside
jurov: except they did not violate it, but these kiev nazis
jurov: sry i meant this
assbot: Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDHLh )
assbot: Someone stole $1 billion from Moldova. That's an eighth of its GDP | GlobalPost ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDHeq )
schmidty: saw a provocative looking comment about the blocksize and i am falling down a rabbit hole now
trinque: my inclination is to believe all these bastards running the largest socialist states talk to each other
trinque: pete_dushenski: dunno what I think, asking the question though. I'm not well informed on eastern european politics.
danielpbarron: schmidty, how did you find this place?
pete_dushenski: trinque deal already made between germany and russia ? you think ?
trinque: I could easily see the latter
trinque: and what I wonder is whether to expect a war over the partitioning of eastern europe, or whether the basic agreement on who gets what has already been made
pete_dushenski: if not, i'd be willing to take a hack at it.
assbot: De ce coruptia nu va putea fi niciodata eliminata on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDjMY )
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << any interest in translating this for the non-romanian-speakers like me ? ☟︎
trinque: is this the only political issue in the region, whether to be eaten by the EU or Russia? ☟︎
trinque: ???Our country is a poor and agrarian country,??? he told GlobalPost on Monday. ???But it???s home to decent people who want their country to flourish, to be closer to European standards, and for it to find its economic niche alongside the European Union.??? << lol europe pls halp
assbot: Someone stole $1 billion from Moldova. That's an eighth of its GDP | GlobalPost ... ( http://bit.ly/1byCSCg )
trinque: I'm using terminus atm with the letter spacing cranked down a bit, works ok
trinque: re: font thread, anyone have a monospaced font with decent word shape?
jurov: guess imma open another bugreport. i tried what's there in the urwvn-fonts versio
ascii_field: what algo one even uses to answer this hypothetical.
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 19:47:33; mircea_popescu: i think i'd have had a ball as a woman.
assbot: Bug 434262 – media-fonts/urwvn-fonts - wrong license due to vn garamond ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6k7Up )
jurov: nope. had to manually patch "GaramondNo8" ttf files
jurov recently embarked on a journey to obtain a "Garamond" which was supposed to be publicly licensed and available
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, i just had a very bloody steak. must be because i've not yet discovered how to make beef unedible.
trinque: nubbins`: that's the accepted way to find fonts among designers these days
mircea_popescu: "Sure, we can all agree that the assumptions made about the nature of blacks at the time was wrong, but that doesn't give us the right to condemn slave owners who didn't know any better. We don't condemn cave people for eating uncooked meat just because they hadn't discovered fire yet, do we?"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu upon review of scoopbot_revived's exquisite design, which includes the titles, nothing !
pete_dushenski: for titles.
pete_dushenski: scoopy still doesn't talk to assbot...
scoopbot_revived: News! The four points of this morning, in color. Any questions ? URL: http://trilema.com/2015/the-four-points-of-this-morning-in-color-any-questions/
mircea_popescu: i should hope the man's mental processes weren't as disordered in all fields as he displays here.
assbot: I Pledge Allegiance to the Confederate States... | MetaFilter ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6iPZG )
mircea_popescu: for the record, laratt as glider gets pretty thoroughly routed on http://www.metafilter.com/49480/I-Pledge-Allegiance-to-the-Confederate-States#1222181 and subsequent
trinque: and after all they're just sitting on it
pete_dushenski: jurov at least the new premier is happy to be a woman.
nubbins`: onward through the fog!
nubbins`: and danny millions sold us yet another boondoggle in the form of muskrat falls
nubbins`: we found some oil and it went to our heads
nubbins`: meanwhile here in twodogland, HST just went up 2%
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works. when you're out of money, you find someone who has some and either steal or beg for it.
pete_dushenski: federal is still stepped, alberta WAS the only province with flat income tax.
pete_dushenski: ndp = boost corporate taxes from 10 to 12%, increase min. wage to $15/hr, 12% tax rate on income between $125,000 to $150,000; 13% on income between $150,000 to $200,000; 14% between $200,000 and $300,000 and 15% over $300,000, all up from 10% flat provincial tax