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ascii_modem: hands are an approximate torque wrench
decimation: none of the guides I saw mention using a torque driver
ascii_modem: when they run out - that's all.
decimation: ascii_modem: yeah the mod looks pretty time consuming
decimation: ascii_modem: there's no equality like everyone swimming in the same fermenter
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 18:34:45; decimation: do you think it is worth the time to 'preemptively' install bolt mod?
ascii_modem: logically - because in other realities, they are biodiesel.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin belongs to everyone like my sperm belongs to every woman : if she's on her knees and i feel like it.
ascii_modem: it is the only reality they cab conceive of
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem it's stunning to me this. the cattle seriously wish to behave as if in fact the kolhoz is the reality and what, we've missed the memo or something ?
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 18:30:10; mircea_popescu: shush you libertarian. if you made it it doesn't belong to you, it belongs TO EVERYONE!11!!1 - and what that means is... yeah you've guessed it.
mircea_popescu: which was going to be "major version" but then some sense got slapped into the derp rangers.
davout: the one that's always been there and the 'improved' version
davout: punkman: there's two sides to the nlocktime thing
decimation: do you think it is worth the time to 'preemptively' install bolt mod? ☟︎
kalki: mircea_pepescu Yes I need to. Will do soon!
thestringpuller: ^- someone's in a good mood today
mircea_popescu: shush you libertarian. if you made it it doesn't belong to you, it belongs TO EVERYONE!11!!1 - and what that means is... yeah you've guessed it. ☟︎
kalki: well It's going - its a bit tough, but that is welcome considering that before I was limited to the level of discussion that happens on twitter or various "btc news" sites... I love the word, and REALLY appreciate the use of it I find in these circles... love the challenge - just hope I get a grip and feel confident enough as far as understanding the depths/possibilities/threats etc of what is happeningbefore the rocket leaves
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 16:42:13; asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/75a4d512cfc9a451fa627a3487ffed102cc67cab << so the 'lock time' idiocy made it in?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156135 << that's always been there, but it's not enough for their micropayment-channels and other hare-brained schemes. so they want to add more. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how's that coming along ?
kalki: Just a person been looking at btc since late 2013... eventually discovered Trilema, contravex, and qntra, which led me here... now just trying to learn to swim in the deeper water
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron williamdunne it'd be for cardano parts, but on alf's say so. thanks!
williamdunne: Dependent on how you need to receive the money/what you need to order etc
williamdunne: Oh right, mircea_popescu if you need to buy/sell 1k of bitcoin I can probably get that done for you
shinohai: So I found this http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-howto.txt on your site danielpbarron, and I just so happen to have a few spare drives already.
danielpbarron: the thign you pasted is re: buying 1k USD worth of bitcoin
williamdunne: 1k thing?
danielpbarron: I'm interested in the 1k thing
williamdunne: I probably should be complaining about one particular exchange, but I'll give them a little more time to fix it, and if they don't I'll be calling them out on their bullshit
asciilifeform off to meatspace for a spell
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo ^^^^
asciilifeform: i, for one, have not located any maker of true mc68k other than freescale today. (the eeprom-on-board variants are not 'true' for the purpose of this query.)
asciilifeform: (zilog is still making z80, nominally pin-compatible with the 1976 variant, yes.)
asciilifeform: long term question for mircea_popescu et. al: who is still manufacturing mc68000 ? -other- than freescale corp. ?
shinohai: He know's 1337. We can trust him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it's a s33kr17 k00l d00dz hidey-hole, this is a well-kept s33kr17
assbot: Increase DEFAULT_BLOCK_MAX_SIZE to 1MB by chriswheeler · Pull Request #6231 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HchGze )
asciilifeform associates tor mainly with spammers
shinohai: tor. sitting around on internet forums doing buying drugs with btc and hating on the government.
shinohai: I just don't get the appeal I guess.
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
shinohai: There was this one guy who never shut up about "'murica is spraying chemicals on us every day"
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Fix off-by-one error w/ nLockTime in the wallet · bitcoin/bitcoin@75a4d51 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HcgR9x )
asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/75a4d512cfc9a451fa627a3487ffed102cc67cab << so the 'lock time' idiocy made it in? ☟︎
asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/dfdb6dd052416da726db6c2e5f76e875cf08c507 << so they're still using openssl.
shinohai: Those that tightened the tinfoil hats on too tightly, and it has forever left an indelible mark upon their brains.
shinohai: @ asciilifeform the kind that parrot everything they hear on reddit
asciilifeform: shinohai: pray tell, what is a 'libertarian of the wost kind' ?
asciilifeform: with plastic rivets, they had, presumably, a vacuum plate (think 'air hockey' table in reverse) and a hot iron.
asciilifeform: with bolts, somebody's gotta sit there with a dynamometer wrench and do the deed
asciilifeform: the membrane (yes, there is a membrane deep inside 'model m') must be pressed to the steel 'anvil' evenly in all places, as far as is possible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my understanding is that this was done to avoid the work of tensioning the bolts correctly
mircea_popescu: wtf who ever thought "o look, this zamac is too strong! we need a shittier replacement!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform plastic rivets are possibly the one stupid thing mostly saying "80s" to me.
asciilifeform: rather than tor per se
asciilifeform: or was shinohai speaking of some forum devoted to the subject
asciilifeform: tor is this thing where tcp is bounced via three machines, selected by shitgnomiferous mega-turd of a client, over ssl (ditto)
shinohai: Well, if one wants to be informed, you check it out for yourself right?
asciilifeform: and wai wat, wtf, how does one 'lurk around tor'
shinohai: @ asciilifeform space cadet: those that sit around in dnm's and put god knows what into their system.
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 16:05:26; shinohai: I hav lurked around tor but their is little excitement there for me. Mostly space cadets and libertarians of the worst kind.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156099 << what in the name of satan is a 'space cadet' ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i don't give a fuck how many gold rings tor users are wearing.
asciilifeform finally grasped the point of the 'bolt mod' for 'ibm model m' keyboard. was cleaning one that has not been cleaned in a decade. keys, chassis - easy, tub of dish detergent, three days. mechanism - washed in nonpolar organics. and that's when a dozen plastic rivets fell right off.
shinohai: I hav lurked around tor but their is little excitement there for me. Mostly space cadets and libertarians of the worst kind. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for instance, im not on tor, have occasionally derped on imageboards. same of you i would guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on the internet, dogs.
shinohai: @ mircea_popescu : did you read the compliments from your adoring fans on r/bitcoin this morning ?
copypaste: yeah. All Java applications hog RAM simply due to overhead of the JVM
shinohai: It's a lot of java, if that alone isn't enough for me to have never really study it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 8chan users are collectively worth what ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely different animals. there are folks using tor exits who -really- ought to know better.
copypaste: Hard to use and hogs RAM. Requires a significant investment of bandwidth as well
mircea_popescu: just sayin, people imagining pointing out to idiot tor users how insecure that shit is would persuade anyone ? shit, hola got 8 million users with 8 million exploitable holes in it.
shinohai: I was lmfao that this 15 yo kid hacked that up good.
assbot: 'Free' VPN Hola is LITERALLY flogging access to users' devices • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARQHbg )
copypaste: The Register, BBC and some other places wrote about that
mircea_popescu: eh, this'd be a lot harder hitting if you know... people didn't use retarded shit like whatever that thing was bothering copypaste
shinohai: Of course they arent!
asciilifeform: 'Because release 0.10.0 and later makes use of headers-first synchronization and parallel block download (see further), the block files and databases are not backwards-compatible with pre-0.10 versions of Bitcoin Core or other software. Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs... The block index database will now hold head
asciilifeform: ok this is pure gold:
asciilifeform: the very notion that there is any 'detection of malicious exits' worth half a sparrow's fart in the wind, or could be, is lunacy
asciilifeform: 1,001 variations on this theme possible.
asciilifeform: no automated inspection bot will notice the malicious exit then.
asciilifeform: and only begins to mitm -after captcha solved-
asciilifeform: say, it watches for the 'captcha' that google virtually always throws at tor users
shinohai: bad operators (read: govs most likely) have every reason to do so
asciilifeform: likewise, it is trivial to construct an exit node which only doctors traffic on very specific and rare occasions
shinohai: tor is kinda flawed in that respect.
asciilifeform: and i have never seen anyone attempt to answer it.
asciilifeform: (question pertains to exit nodes, naturally)
asciilifeform: shinohai: since you did link it... here's a mega-question for 'tor' enthusiasts. what's to stop a 'malicious' (diddles traffic) node from routing its circuits -back into tor-, and having some other exit end up looking like the guilty party ?
asciilifeform: and apple bug tip hotline, lol
mircea_popescu: by now phuctor's dredged up enough material for a spy novel. "what does muryokoin temple, the australian pirate party and debian/gnu have in common ?"
asciilifeform: it isn't publicly known, afaik. and, my not being in their wot, how would i possibly know of it until now.
mircea_popescu: kinda surprised you dun know it by name, on the grounds that afaik it's the only people doing what you do for a living, outside of russia
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 15:12:35; mircea_popescu: (and the shumitsu aka pearl of honesty was, at the time, the head honzo)