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mircea_popescu: and you figure this matters ?
mircea_popescu: o, he doesn't want to does he ?
mircea_popescu: for instance patrickharnett is getting axed tomorrow on the dot.
mircea_popescu: i thought they are ;/
mircea_popescu: but i stil lfail to see how the whole month of november is an unreasonable allowance to fucking pull some fields from a db and send them to peopkle
mircea_popescu: yes man, which is why we weren't having this conversation on the 15th
mircea_popescu: o you mean enfario ya
mircea_popescu: you mean pirate ?!
mircea_popescu: messiah ?
mircea_popescu: teh saviour shall come sort of outlook
mircea_popescu: people seem more religious than business-oriented in btc.
mircea_popescu: not that anyone listened then or anything.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining ask copumpkin, i was pushing for pirate write-offs in august.
mircea_popescu: nah im about to call it a night soon
mircea_popescu: copumpkin o he cares.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining the sticking point is the reasonable part of more reasonable.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin paulson in 2nd place, that must have gone over well
mircea_popescu: and afaik at least one glbse failure was already resolved, without protest for that matter.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't erase the data right away on general principle.
mircea_popescu: what is left to hang hope on ?
mircea_popescu: is the website online ? neither.
mircea_popescu: is his reputation in good standing ? no, it's not.
mircea_popescu: is the guy here defending himself ? no, he's not. is the company still standing ? no, it was dissolved (retroactively).
mircea_popescu: man, forget the because. look at things objectively.
mircea_popescu: what's left now ?
mircea_popescu: this was the last ditch of credibility left.
mircea_popescu: the guy got a scammer tag for chrissakes
mircea_popescu: nefario went silent, before this. their board broke apart.
mircea_popescu: but see, glbse.com going offline is really the absolute last signal of dissapearance.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin o wow, tyggr ?!
mircea_popescu: what did we do ?
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining sorry what ?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: we waited a month, and you are saying "well we should wait six cause this guy is slow"
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining but that's exactly what we're doing today.
mircea_popescu: more constructively, do you have something better than that, i'd want to know
mircea_popescu: we just contest ad infinitum
mircea_popescu: that's kinda absurd, we'll never be done if we go that way
mircea_popescu: why'd he have to contest it
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining yes, they will be slight, by today's measure. cause today the scent is still fresh. but in 9 years it will seem reasonable to wait 100 rather than 10.
mircea_popescu: smickles degree of magnitute more than the smallest contractual breach
mircea_popescu: smickles well we agreed on principle but not on the actual interval so far.
mircea_popescu: i just didn't hear anything more reasonable.
mircea_popescu: i don't claim it's perfect or anything, should carry the day
mircea_popescu: smickles what i indicated was 10 dividend periods.
mircea_popescu: still doesn't indicate why six months is more reasonable than six weeks
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: if nothing happens in am onth, better wait two. if nothing happens in two better wait six
mircea_popescu: cause it's purely arbitrary. yes, the chances to get something decrease with time. so, if nothing happens in one week, better wait a month.
mircea_popescu: in principle the same could be said of 10 years vs 1000 years.
mircea_popescu: some time limit will have to be enforced. why this rather than that ?
mircea_popescu: we only got into that cause smickles brought it up, but otherwise, the point is more along the lines of,
mircea_popescu: and at any rate the whole involuntary bailee point is mostly academic, it just rehashes the obvious "tough tits" line
mircea_popescu: anyway, even the example as given is simplified, because it gonflates giga and glbse into A.
mircea_popescu: quite the contrary.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining there's no limitation that you can only be ib if you can divest in a manner convenient to all partsi nvolved
mircea_popescu: while C may be entitled to that claim, it's really not much of B's business.
mircea_popescu: this makes B the involuntary bailee of C's claim, because B never leased to C any such thing as "future claims to the office space conditional on A's performance in court"
mircea_popescu: smickles no, it's more complicated. person A leases a building to person B. person B leases office space to C. person A is arrested and the building confiscated. C demands from B that B ensures C gets the office space at a future time if the building is returned to A.
mircea_popescu: it has in practice been replaced by a vague sort of claim thing.
mircea_popescu: which now is no more.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining because the vehicle for my ownership was the glbse share
mircea_popescu: but not some-other-thing-which-aren't-the-assets.
mircea_popescu: yes, the assets.
mircea_popescu: conveniently BTC-Mining is taking the other side, i'm not sure i'd prefer anyone else for it.
mircea_popescu: it is a pretty important point for btc in general, which is why i'm taking the time
mircea_popescu: that could or may be conceived.
mircea_popescu: i can't accept eternal burden of any-and-all 2'
mircea_popescu: but even if i forfeit this entitlement, i can only do it in a time-limited way
mircea_popescu: in law i'm perfectly allowed to not do it at all (hence the discussion of involuntary bailee, you purport to make me the depositor of a 2' device which i never should have to hold)
mircea_popescu: i might extend something like this as a courtesy, and for a limited time
mircea_popescu: once 2 goes away, you propose that it is my obligation to create a 2' vehicle to bridge this gap.
mircea_popescu: moving right along.
mircea_popescu: well, let it be on record that what i mean by "GLBSE's mining thing" is Gigamining shares, issued and traded on GLBSE
mircea_popescu: again, if i had off-glbse private bonds this entire discussion would be moot.
mircea_popescu: ie, GIGAMINING shares
mircea_popescu: nope, i own shares in the glbse miningthing
mircea_popescu: well ?
mircea_popescu: now, in the event 2 dissapears,
mircea_popescu: ok.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you dispute the scheme laid out above ?
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, let us get to the bottom of this, ok ?
mircea_popescu: this about right so far ?
mircea_popescu: 1. giga made a mining thing ; 2. glbse listed the mining thing ; 3. i own shares in the glbse mining thing ; 4 i made a mpex thing ; 5 you own shares in the mpex thing.
mircea_popescu: let's see the whole line here.
mircea_popescu: this qualifies just fine.
mircea_popescu: so, i made thing A. thing A is no longer. you want me to be the holder of substitute-thing B until such a time that you're satisfied.
mircea_popescu: wait a second.
mircea_popescu: huh ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder who should get it this time, pdpc got it last time...
mircea_popescu: i guess if i end up with a windfall it'll just make some worthy cause rich.
mircea_popescu: nah, im not going to realise that gain.
mircea_popescu: o i see
mircea_popescu: but anyway.
mircea_popescu: You are now in possession of ~1000 Gigamining bonds <<
mircea_popescu: if i had 1k bonds this discussion wouldn't exist, i'd be paying dividends on them lol.
mircea_popescu: i have (indirect) claims on about 1k (more like 1.1 iirc) of gigaminign shares.
mircea_popescu: nope ?
mircea_popescu: what benefit is that ?