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mircea_popescu: so who wanted to play monopoly yest ? smickles ? thestringpuller ?
mircea_popescu: Some user used an SQLi to get into the System and stole the API keys from the users.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i tell you, the shit we get involved in here would put to shame a full fledged commercial paper litigation house
mircea_popescu: knotwork this is something that MAY happen, but i'll still try and protect them
mircea_popescu: and in general it'd be a premier way to cause a mess. i'll pass
mircea_popescu: knotwork there's plenty of problems. for once the scale is 1:1000, for another it wasn't a direct holding, and i see no good reason to pressure giga this way (which would be really abusive tbh)
mircea_popescu: knotwork nah gpg string is just submited as a post to an url.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining back a year or so ago mpoe traded by email. i think knotwork isn't up to date with the new trade paradigm
mircea_popescu: knotwork "anyone could have made up any ficitional but syntactically possible email address to make up a PGP identity for" << this part is correct
mircea_popescu: no, im just trying to explain to ppl why starting dec 1st there won't be any f.giga.etf listed in their STAT responses
mircea_popescu: you know, you can't just not show people symbols in stats w/o teling them in advance
mircea_popescu: well i guess all this is new, so people make varied assumptions
mircea_popescu: it's in those same logs that nefario spent glbse/bcglobal money w/o asking.
mircea_popescu: (knowing that he had spent glbse money w/o permission, which isn't disputed)
mircea_popescu: i've been so far perfectly unable to confirm much of it. but who knows.
mircea_popescu: nefario has this bad habit of lieing through his teeth.
mircea_popescu: hey, so did everyone else. WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT!!1
mircea_popescu: <strong>mircea_popescu</strong> you know this as a fact ?
mircea_popescu: <strong>BTC-Mining</strong> If you don't know the facts, he claims to have asked the FSA about it long ago but they claimed not to be concerned by anything Bitcoins related. (Probably miscommunication). Trying to go legal, he consulted again and was told to stop or he could be charged.
mircea_popescu: for misstating facts, jumping to conclusions and other crmes
mircea_popescu: wtf, delete signed orders create chaos. heck, why not, lets have fun
mircea_popescu: i didn't say i delete all data lol. i said the shares are discarded as worthless
mircea_popescu: the transaction (in general, the historical) data was never in discussion.
mircea_popescu: II. MPEx reviews complaint. either it has or it has not ulterior transactions signed by person
mircea_popescu: either person has or has not a stat to back their complaint. if they do not, complaint is invalid.
mircea_popescu: but the chain of dispute is very simple and efficient. let me explain it.
mircea_popescu: what's not receivable mean ? they're not negotiable instruments, no.
mircea_popescu: no more, no less. this is the most they could do, too.
mircea_popescu: signed stats do exactly what they do : they show that at time X you had Y.
mircea_popescu: one'd not give a shit about the former, and even keep most of them off the active db cause mpex doesn't need to review trade #5 at any point in november 2012
mircea_popescu: conceivably, one'd care to keep these later trimmed seeing how they're pounded possibly 1000s of times a second
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining think for a moment, logically. in any possible implementation there'd be some dbs which hold records of what has happened. such as, who transfered what to whom, in sale or otherwise.
mircea_popescu: contact everyone on irc list to the right ask them to wipe selected lines from their logs ?
mircea_popescu: what, am i going to log into twitter and delete tweets ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to delete f.giga.etf entries from the historical records.
mircea_popescu: you for some reason seem to be mixing historical data with active data.
mircea_popescu: but you said yes to smickle's 30 years and i said nope
mircea_popescu: lol you know i could say "if you only asked this two hours ago" just as well :p
mircea_popescu: well, i don't think it was wasted time, something tells me this discussion will form precedent for many later discussions.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining lol we talked of this before, i have no way of knowing from the onset what exactly is the form that's clear to you
mircea_popescu: and i fully appreciate it may seem insane or w/e, but the fact of the matter is we are involved in very complex transactions and the only way to do all this is to do it CORRECTLY