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mircea_popescu: a ok
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller thought we were discussing revenue ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google mpoe.etf
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller o, on mpoe.etf ?
mircea_popescu: ya srsly, no "no compete" clause ?!
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.80
mircea_popescu: moar.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 12755.5931038 * 12 * 11.66
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: seems to be a little over 1.2mn per year.
mircea_popescu: that's s.mpoe for october.
mircea_popescu: Revenue : 12`755.59310383 BTC, of which :
mircea_popescu: yaya
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller how would you even know what their revenue was ?
mircea_popescu: lol cool
mircea_popescu: umm what did i miss ?
mircea_popescu: basically you output them to a twitter channel and the bot sucks them from there.
mircea_popescu: dear old wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: ignoring the fact you've got your terminology borkt.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. you settle daily inasmuch as you keep moving margins around.
mircea_popescu: listen. is there some event occuring on your site every day at 20:00 ?
mircea_popescu: that you close the book half a minute before daily settlement, that you then proceed to execute fake trades on your own account, that you then reopen the book after daily settlement cutoff
mircea_popescu: chief among which, where are your trades logged ?
mircea_popescu: rather than posturing you'd be much better served by addressing the actual points.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as absentee blackmail.
mircea_popescu: it has to be one or the other you know.
mircea_popescu: weren't you complaining earlier you didn't get any mail ?
mircea_popescu: smickles yet again the problem with the website model. customer says X. site says Y. how do we verify this ?
mircea_popescu: people imagine i'm like them.
mircea_popescu: because they fail to realise that i employ people, that i've had the affidavit vetter by trade engine experts before posting and on and on
mircea_popescu: no, actually, in general scammers do come to me with a head full of steam in the first pass
mircea_popescu: alright, carry on.
mircea_popescu: sigh.
mircea_popescu: the article stands on its own, as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: (tho i could have said it makes zero sense to put charts behind a pw)
mircea_popescu: i didn't say the chart makes zero sense.
mircea_popescu: but we're not discussing that.
mircea_popescu: i understand _why_ you do it this way, if you said 40 BTC/day it would look poor but honest, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: volume is reported by a fixed time interval. like a month, or a day.
mircea_popescu: yes well, other than glbse nobody does this.
mircea_popescu: "all trades are logged" you say. where ?
mircea_popescu: and for other reasons.
mircea_popescu: and because it doesn't seem to be updated.
mircea_popescu: _Fireball it makes zero sense because a. it's not clear if you mean per day, week month, year
mircea_popescu: an easy mistake to make, everyone thinks his kids are the smartest.
mircea_popescu: i think he just got blindsided. he thought bfl is the greatest business in btc
mircea_popescu: smickles i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: you're joking, right ?
mircea_popescu: that's fine.
mircea_popescu: but whether it does or it doesn't isn't really relevant
mircea_popescu: it possibly gives you a profit through the mechanism delineated at the end of the article,
mircea_popescu: then do some fake trading, then reopen the book 10 seconds after 20:00
mircea_popescu: not really. the allegation is that you close the book for customers at 30 seconds before 20:00
mircea_popescu: one wants to verify this.
mircea_popescu: but if one suspects that the sellout happening just before closing is not legitimate
mircea_popescu: yes, a typical limit order can be put in any time.
mircea_popescu: it's not the isp.
mircea_popescu: exactly to expose the scam ? why else ?
mircea_popescu: this would naturally lead to an inference against your site.
mircea_popescu: but again, the point of most concern is that on the 15th the book was closed to some participants, but not others.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: but no, it was not closed.
mircea_popescu: whether my position was closed or not is besides the point. the part of the article you're discussing is refering the mechanics of the thing, not my own position.
mircea_popescu: wed it's 8.1, and so it goes until it is 5 on sunday.
mircea_popescu: tuesday price is 9
mircea_popescu: monday someone deposits 100 btc, price is 10. they buy 5000 contracts (cause of 5x margin)
mircea_popescu: but alright, even more complex example
mircea_popescu: that has little impact. yes, you only change it 10% a day.
mircea_popescu: the 100 btc deposited are not enough, are the contracts closed or no ?
mircea_popescu: next settlement, price is 5.
mircea_popescu: let's work in more detail. usd/btc is 10.0. someone deposits 100 btc. with margin, buys 500 contracts at a price of 10
mircea_popescu: but in the example i gave there would not be enough money in the account.
mircea_popescu: is the position not closed ?
mircea_popescu: price at 20:00 is 5
mircea_popescu: um. so suppose someone buys 1000 contracts at 10, deposits enough margin for just this
mircea_popescu: about a day or so before.
mircea_popescu: 15NOV12 19:59 At 30 seconds until close, I saw the expected sell order. It was larger than I had expected, leaving about 450 contracts on the book at 10.025. Notwithstanding the fact that his order would not overcome this, I dutifully placed the order Mircea had asked me too.
mircea_popescu: the event we are discussing is
mircea_popescu: November 16, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
mircea_popescu: no rush.
mircea_popescu: when, this ?
mircea_popescu: this partial closing of the book is very problematic.
mircea_popescu: during the half minute or so towards the end.
mircea_popescu: the point of most concern is smickles' report that he could not place bids
mircea_popescu: a, welcome to the pit. so what exactly is the story with icbit ?
mircea_popescu: yes ?
mircea_popescu: maybe beat someone else's wife.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla didn't know you were married
mircea_popescu: hah
mircea_popescu: like... tonight
mircea_popescu: apparently the egyptians are about to invade israel
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa in truth tho, after a product matures, guarding against feature creep is the main responsibility of the maintainer.
mircea_popescu: haha tumblr is like wp for the add crowd
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: ;;google ADD
mircea_popescu: livejournal
mircea_popescu: twitter is sorta like lj for the add crowd
mircea_popescu: twitter lol
mircea_popescu: http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/16/taliban_accidentally_ccs_everybody_on_its_mailing_list
mircea_popescu: and also... wait for it...