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cazalla: so i hear, took a shot gun to the face and walked away unscatched, prob bullshit story
Vexual: some cop got shot in the head last night in melb too
Vexual: but the 2nd had less vanstone
Vexual: i missed the first one
Vexual: i liked the general there of private enterprise
cazalla: part 2 of that report on ndrangheta was on last night, did ya see that Vexual ?
punkman: asciilifeform: i really fail to grasp for what, precisely, it is, that we need the possibility of falling difficulty. << remember Altcoin? do you prefer the possibility of 1 block per month? ☟︎☟︎
cazalla: fkn internets in this country..
Vexual: i think i mentioned the free rent
Vexual: to have been a fly on the wall
cazalla: yeah, that lee guy uses it as proof he has a solid reputation in the bitcoin community.. hai guyz i run a bitcoin meetup so pls gief me 20 mirrion dorrah
Vexual: i like the model
Vexual: do they mention the office space in melb?
Vexual: dunno when the lease is up
cazalla: well bitcoin group lost like 250k mining so the model is really just finding people to bail em out ☟︎
Vexual: i like the model
cazalla: for something like 0.5% of the hashrate
cazalla: well that is where bitcoin group claim they mine, that and china
Vexual: i think maybe the spoonies in iceland is rented
Vexual: yes, but they did it smooth like
cazalla: i think dcc shitcanned their mining or at least onsold their capacity
Vexual: thats less than dcc
cazalla: i read it last night.. they want 20 million to buy more miners with
Vexual: u say they obtained asicminer hashes in jan tho?
Vexual: i havent read the prospectus
Vexual: 3 months free commercial rent, sublet desks at the same rate, voila
Vexual: they kinda ghosted after that
Vexual: thats what i thought
cazalla: Vexual, no idea, i think they actually provide the space to others
trinque: might take a swing at it
trinque: in fact I built llvm and clang earlier today
asciilifeform also to bed
asciilifeform: rather than just 'what fits'
asciilifeform: other thing is, ideally the graph would be in some logical arrangement ☟︎
decimation: yeah, gonna take makefile dicking
asciilifeform: possibly ben_vulpes or trinque might give it a shot
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrOdcnFbAY <rippin up the stmostphere
mats: im off to eat an entire large papa johns pizza and re-read chapterhouse (dune)
Vexual: i saw funkensteins man playin, i could smell the 03
asciilifeform: well these every civilized person knows
decimation: it would be useful to know basic algorithms and associated time estimates
asciilifeform: mats: traditional diff, afaik, did not
mats: can't remember the name of the algo, though
asciilifeform: lamport (same as of the 'generals') clock.
mats: i was under the impression 'diff' implements a variation on 'needleman-wunsch'
asciilifeform: and then of course there is basic crypto, but i am deliberately not mentioning it
asciilifeform confesses that he did not know this proof, and, as a student, wasted a great deal of time trying to devise such a thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: other pertinent maths include the proof of why 'homomorphic obfuscator' is impossible in the general case
asciilifeform: this was not taught to them
asciilifeform: e.g., my current colleagues were very surprised when i told them about needleman-wunsch and how one can make a non-retarded binary 'diff'
asciilifeform: enough to understand, e.g., 'phuctor'
asciilifeform: doesn't hurt to know some maths
mats: if the latter is even necessary, i have no idea
mats: computing power or particularly deep knowledge of the maths theory involved
asciilifeform: then have to be very particular
mats: i don't care about fuzzing at all, folks have much better tooling than i do, and i have no resources of any kind to aid me in that
asciilifeform: and that the only opponent is 'raghead' in goatfuckistan
asciilifeform: some smirking 'plum book' stuffed shirt who thinks that his ph.d. makes him a god
asciilifeform: and, in the ultimate case, the kind created by somebody who was sure that it would never be looked for. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the kind you find by looking where literally nobody else has thought to look, perhaps even using tooling that literally no one else has.
asciilifeform: there is also the 'sui generis'
asciilifeform: mats: the fungible coolie 0day isn't the only kind there is, you know
mats: otherwise i wouldn't subject myself to it
asciilifeform: decimation: you don't. the notion was that 'too many to hang'
mats: thats the primary thing driving my interest in studying windows at all
decimation: how do you maintain such a dht without giving enemy a dictionary of ips to attack
mats: we diverge on this point
asciilifeform: decimation: for a successful example of this, see 'kademlia'
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah 'snow' seems to try to maintain a dht across the peers
asciilifeform: or to be present anywhere at all in that supply chain.
asciilifeform: i have no wish to be a coolie.
asciilifeform: the kind typically done by armies of coolies, 'fuzzing'
asciilifeform: mats: even the exploiting, i find, is deadly boring
asciilifeform: the thing to do with shit is to burn it.
asciilifeform: because they are expressions of surrender, of 'willing to live with' a pit of liquid shit
mats: moves stack based buffers to another segment, then stores reference
asciilifeform: (despite pretenses to the contrary)
asciilifeform: just like tor dies if the directory servers are ever unplugged.
asciilifeform: because ultimately there are servers and 'magic' ips.
asciilifeform: decimation: looks like a cheap clone of tor-onion
decimation: "snow is a layer 3 virtual network that abstracts the underlying network and allows public keys to be used in place of IP addresses. "
decimation: asciilifeform: https://github.com/zrm/snow < I thought this could be it, but then saw the deps list ☟︎
asciilifeform: decimation: thing is, we don't have a network where you connect by key instead of by ip
asciilifeform: as in having keys in the box at all when it ships
decimation: as in, a symmetric pair for time transmission?
asciilifeform: we have this now
decimation: or a large collection of them run by enthusiastic hobbyists
asciilifeform: and you're back to square one
Vexual: let the nodes confirm it
decimation: even hitler can't move the moon's path
decimation: asciilifeform: true, but if one person can find time and verify for themselves, they can provide services for others
asciilifeform: pogo needs to plug into the wall and immediately fight
Vexual: you'll do best to learn it with out of date info
decimation: as asciilifeform pointed out this comparison would involve some time conversions
decimation: find predictions for the time they are to occur and compare with your clock under test ☟︎
decimation: the point about occultations is that you can get tables of when they are supposed to occur for your area. you don't need a fancy telescope, usually cheap bionoculars would suffice for observation
Vexual: you'll find the reduction tables for free at .mil
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/auth-ntp.cfm < apparently you need to sign up by post if you want to receive 'authenticated time service' from usg
ben_vulpes: i begin to understand.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thread was about how bitcoin as it exists is very much designed around 'political time' being a knowable and generally agreed-on thing