log☇︎
445200+ entries in 0.273s
pete_dushenski: ascii_field took time for the drones to be lined up, meetings to be had, coffee to be drunk, etc.
ascii_field: i still can't fathom why this wasn't sop from day 1. ☟︎
trinque: sort mempool by fee and fuck the poor?
ascii_field: it also has the purpose of trying to thin the node herd
trinque: yet I can still get transactions through just fine
ascii_field: it being, price themselves out of tx, and then clamour for 'deeeeemooocracy'
BingoBoingo: stress test demonstrates 1MB is plenty big to allow for periodic spam attacks, and bigger blocks would make bloat attacks still cheaper
ascii_field: trinque: it is abundantly clear what they are trying to do
trinque: 'cept that when the best platform for capitalism ever devised appears, fucktards still think markets wont work within it
trinque: I have no idea what they think the 'stress test' is meant to demonstrate ☟︎
trinque: if someone really wants to "spam" let him pay the fees sufficient to do so, and he can keep that up for as many blocks as he likes, bidding against every other person who wants in the block
trinque: danielpbarron: my point exactly; bitcoin's own fee mechanism defends against this bullshit
pete_dushenski: https://admin.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/price_scheme_2015q3.pdf << 40k euros for 'hacking team' to implant agent to track opponent's bitcoin transactions
danielpbarron: i like how the block-filling transaction cost nothing, meanwhile redditards are flipping out that they would have to pay 0.0002 if they actually had bitcoin to spend
danielpbarron: or the guy knows an actual miner
danielpbarron: the outputs must be old enough to not set off spam filters or whatever
trinque: or was that not what the "stress testers" were trying to demonstrate
pete_dushenski: 12 confs on it too
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, guy paid 0 fees to make that thing
ascii_field is quite certain he saw the whole thing somewhere !
ascii_field: http://www.plugcomputer.org/405/us/plug-basic/documentation/Plug-DevKit-Reference-Design-Rev1.1.pdf << incidentally, this is the reference design on which 'pogo' is based
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin main net block size to increase in 2015 :: 3.84 B (13%) on Yes, 25.68 B (87%) on No | closing in 4 months 1 week| weight: 41`573 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1flrrAF )
pete_dushenski: 'double spend' block is crazy close to 1,000,000 byte over-under here : https://bitbet.us/bet/1093/bitcoin-main-net-block-size-to-increase-in/
assbot: Arch Linux ARM • View topic - Dockstar Pinout SDHC Card and I2C ... ( http://bit.ly/1flrhta )
ascii_field: ^ adding the missing rtc crystal & power source to 'dockstart', machine using same chipset as pogo
trinque: "Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender."
trinque: ah there it went
trinque: .info that is
trinque: blockchain wont load on this end
pete_dushenski: https://blockchain.info/tx/bb41a757f405890fb0f5856228e23b715702d714d59bf2b1feb70d8b2b4e3e08 << 999,657 byte transaction with 9 confirmations.
ascii_field has taken to pronouncing 'goat', 'voat', with accent on syllables, as in 'coax' cabl
mircea_popescu: "what shall we fuck today ?" "nine"
mircea_popescu: because why sign things when you're "in crypto". he's an expert at counting fucking goats
BingoBoingo: Well, he didn't sign the comment
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i assume that's laanwj
mircea_popescu: jurov how am i going to speak here if i can't paste the assbot text ?
ascii_field: can crap out four paragraphs of acceptable english, adding up to nothing at all
ascii_field: gotta love the philippinos
BingoBoingo: Obviously something went wrong, but blaming the process, or Bitcoin Core's implementation is disingenious. Neither was this caused by wide use of old software, because old software would simply keep producing v2 blocks, so the change would never have triggered." << Ergo these new multi-block forks aren't happening
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Well, gavin stopped. I guess now they roll on to the next one.
jurov: mircea_popescu: owait, the task includes copy/paste from/to eulora?
ascii_field: 'it wasn't us, because we're the core devs, and ergo it wasn't us, fuck you'
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: surprised it took so long for the shitgang to start rolling out obfuscatory smoke ?
shinohai: I'm close to the state of Alabama, shouldn't be hard.
shinohai: Then I'll have to buy a cow. Or marry one.
mircea_popescu: and then where'll you be
mircea_popescu: careful shinohai next you'll buy into the cult koolaid that milk doesn't come from supermarket
ascii_field: the chart needs to account for literally 100% of the src lines
shinohai > mfw there is no cloud, only someone else's computer ...
mircea_popescu: nobody realises they live in a house of shit until they try to go out the door
ascii_field: there is no tool to work with, afaik
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i think a few people are trying, but yes, as trinque says
ascii_field: and that thing needs to happen
jurov: and btw, there's 0.5BTC bounty for eulora on mac.
ascii_field: because no one seems to be giving a flying fuck
ascii_field: though i'll probably end up with the bounty for the callgraph
mircea_popescu: like being unreasonable with the pogos
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i don't want you to be doingm it, you do useful things with your time
ascii_field: ah just for jurov then
jurov: yes. you don't read trilema?
ascii_field: was this an open rfc ?
mircea_popescu: (pro tip : it doesn't handle pasting atm har har.)
jurov: maybe i'll catch aneurysm from that cpp turd first
mircea_popescu: is it actually going to work ?
mircea_popescu: jurov you making me the irc game client ?
jurov: oh, it has 58M inodes? okay then
jurov: mircea_popescu: you need to do sth with the inodes
ascii_field true to form, is sorry he found out
mircea_popescu: don't ask and you won't have to find out.
assbot: I took a loan at 25% on prosper and put it on ltc - panic attack from the price going down : litecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHx47D )
shinohai: Todays crypto financial genius award goes to: http://redd.it/3cfd05
mod6: I'm currently a bit distracted. I'll re-read all of this discussion on my way back and think about it.
jurov: just check there's 400G free and 190k inodes
shinohai: I love sdf.org, but damn their mail server is so slow.
assbot: The twu luv torture on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tjrv2m )
ascii_field: the vectorized difficulty thing made me recall it
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: where was your article with the boy, gurl, two frag grenades, and a length of twine ?
mircea_popescu will put it online under trilema/uploads
mircea_popescu: please DO untar it either first or there before publishing
ascii_field: not everybody wants the whole ball of shit
mircea_popescu: jurov feel free to put it on your binaries acct.
mircea_popescu: shinohai well yeah, you put your email in there, get an email with address. didja ?
ascii_field: not a bad test of how 'bulletproof' mircea_popescu's new fleet of boxes is ?
jurov: if i'm to put it on s3, only private
jurov: folks. "hackedteam" leak is 99% downloaded, but i don't really have a place to publicly host it
mircea_popescu looks at this thing
shinohai: I misunderstand then. I thought an address for deposit is emailed to you.
ascii_field: 'when the coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory springs' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: (why would you, there's no indication it's your email)
mircea_popescu: not liable to get anything unless you pay.
mircea_popescu: decimation that's ok, we have a good sense of humour about it.
shinohai: @ mircea_popescu I *think* I sent an email correctly in order to purchase some trilema credits
decimation: 'this system where we take turns accusing each other of being an enemy of the revolution can come around to bite me!'
ascii_field: and will fail to be externally reachable at all a good chunk of the time
ascii_field: bad enough that this thing will need upnp
mod6: <+ascii_field> mod6: anything that requires the operator to even know that routers exist is inapplicable for pogo << yeah was reading what you guys were saying. basically why I didn't bring it up. too hard for mom & pop.
mircea_popescu: o wait, that was a DIFFERENT liberal professor bitching abotu the hell of their own making
ascii_field: may as well ask him (her!) to set up a gentoo
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 i think this is related to "askl your isp" << yeah.
ascii_field: mod6: anything that requires the operator to even know that routers exist is inapplicable for pogo