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danielpbarron: it's kinda
tricky getting
them open. I had
to scuff up a credit card and yeah some of
the inner clips got cracked
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 00:56:00; williamdunne: ;;later
tell gabriel_laddel was checking my rates, out of interest what is my association with gamingfurry.tumblr.com?
ben_vulpes: and on
top of
that, his error rate cracking
them open is probably zero. small sample size, but...
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> so much as opening pogo and
touching inside multiplies
the cost of
the operation. << and yet mircea_popescu had
this done
funkenstein_: well I
think asciilifeform is formulating a more specific attack so
that should be interesting
funkenstein_: it's basically a jury duty scenario, you found a block, do your best
to
tell us what
time it is
funkenstein_: we can't know what procedure miners are using
to set
their own clocks
mircea_popescu: block 102 arrives, at
timestamp 200, advertising
timestamp 250.
mircea_popescu: block 101 arrives, at
timestamp 150, advertising
timestamp 101.
mircea_popescu: does not. looky here. block is 100,
timestamp is 100, allowable max drift is 100.
mircea_popescu: yes, magical offset in
that you don't know who's lying.
funkenstein_: yes, enjoyed it.. sorry you are probably sick of
this
time
talk already
funkenstein_: the quantity
the a miner needs
to report is
the
time since
the last difficulty change
decimation: funkenstein_: were you
the one studying clock intervals in bitcoin
funkenstein_: it's a prototype,
the code might need some cleaning up
funkenstein_: i've heard
tell of a distributed clock
that might meet your needs
williamdunne: I did a judging
thing at
teh loebner prize before. Was pretty lulzy
mircea_popescu: or whatever actual respectable prize
the nobel used
to be
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I guess. At
the very least
the cause of it is good
though
mircea_popescu: decimation
the problem of fitting real
time
to blocks is in fact going straight
to
the root of
the world. solve it, get nobel.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 19:54:23; decimation: maybe I should start watching venus
too
mircea_popescu: well ideal in what sense ? it's very unideal for his idea of
timekeeping, because it proves (what we already knew) :
time is meaningless and political
time conventional, and all sorts of nutty fashions can endure a long
time. ie, 350k blocks in
this case.
mircea_popescu: jurov
that's a pretty weird graph considering
the gaps aren't even same size o.O
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 21:30:21; ascii_field: likewise,
the 'bubbles' ought
to be sized proportional
to
their connectivity degree.
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 21:14:04; jurov: mircea_popescu: is
the ftp server in
the vicinity of your bitcoin node? it went full speed for minutes,
then it suddenly
throttled
to 6kbps
decimation: what is
the rate at which new blocks are found?
mircea_popescu: it would appear we are no less
than a year into
the future.
decimation: it would
take a few difficulty inervals
decimation: pogo can keep
time by comparing its clock
to
the block discovery interval, averaging over a long period
williamdunne: Oh good, flowers really would have made
the whole situation rather strange
mircea_popescu: i would like
to assure
the concerned public
that no flower bouquets were involved in any of
this at any point.
mircea_popescu: she says sure, she's going for a cup of coffee. i ask where, she says "tell your guy
to find out"
decimation: asciilifeform: I'm not sure what you are
thinking, but my idea is
to use
the 10 minute block
time as a noisy oscillator
mircea_popescu: well,
the most famous and i guess exemplare case is, mp stops car,
tells shadow : follow
that girl. guy gets an address, mp gets a phone number,
talks
to puzzled woman. explains
that he had her stalked, would she like
to have a cup of coffee
mats: hiding in
the bushes,
tracking movements, masturbating
to her shadowy figure in
the shower?
mircea_popescu: mats you know all
the girls i knew for
the first i dunno, decade of my life i got
through stalking ?
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 21:05:13; ascii_field: i still can't fathom why
this wasn't sop from day 1.
mats: thats
the first positive outcome
to stalking i've heard of
mircea_popescu: they
truely believe it is a natural
truth
that
their existence is all
that's needed.
mircea_popescu: also why it's so fucking disconcerting
to
the welfare mass.
mircea_popescu: which is why
this place (ie, bitcoin) is so fucking beautiful.
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 21:02:02;
trinque: I have no idea what
they
think
the 'stress
test' is meant
to demonstrate
menahem: ahh ok, used in
the mouth!
menahem: omg what is
that photo ? insert and expand ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno
there's a sadder indictment of
the decaying west.
mod6: no idea. i just swapped
that stuff out for
the fullpath, but gernika reminded me
that one can usese readlink -f
phf: i
think
that's
the errors from environment variables not being set
phf: mod6:
that's
the last part of readme, you want
to build with gmake instead of make (pkg_add gmake)
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 18:51:43; ascii_field: let's imagine, briefly,
that i ~do~ find.
shinohai passes a glass of his Absinthe
to asciilifeform
trinque: "this one out of
the set" vs "this one" vs "that" ... so on
trinque: all
the articles for example
trinque: having merely dabbled in german,
there seems
to be a preciseness or specificity
to it
shinohai: Nearly every one I have met speaks far better English
than half
the Americans I know.
trinque: you just grow up knowing
that "*der*
Tisch"
trinque: near as I can
tell,
there is no logic
to
them
trinque: german I've yet
to get past
the myriad articles
shinohai: I'm ok with Spanish. Could probably carry on a convo
though it has been a while/
williamdunne notably did qualify for a non-state school scholarship at a language school, after passing
the aptitude
tests. Further highlighting
the failure of state education
williamdunne: In fairness, even in RO I could understand half
the crap because its still latin
williamdunne: I couldn't even update "Ich bin zwolf jahre alt"
to make sense in my current state without
the assistance from google
translate.
trinque: took spanish in high school; I can understand more
than I can say
trinque: there,
that about does it for my german
williamdunne: I had compulsory German and French lessons for 4 years in state education. Went about as well as expected. My entire vocabulary in both languages is "Bonjour", "Guten
Tag", "Ich habe ein gross hose schlange", and "Ich bin zwolf jahre alt", along with a few words of no use on
their own
mod6: i used
to be fairly fluent 10 years ago, now. not so much lol.