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mircea_popescu: hehe cool
mircea_popescu: and it tells you where to send and how much.
mircea_popescu: and you go DEPOSIT|50 for instance
mircea_popescu: rbenzaquen well if you signed the key it should be ok.
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: surely.
mircea_popescu: no problem
mircea_popescu: you do and that's it.
mircea_popescu: say you want to deposit 100 btc. it says "deposit 100.48973984 BTC"
mircea_popescu: you send that sum to exchange address
mircea_popescu: there's a special DEPOSIT order which tells you a sum
mircea_popescu: what do you mean by "BTC public key" ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/ see that.
mircea_popescu: yes, you generate a public/private keypair. one second
mircea_popescu: rbenzaquen this place works. what's the problem ?
mircea_popescu: i think we take this to pm
mircea_popescu: when the time comes, everything outstanding you deliver.
mircea_popescu: you sell them for as much as you want
mircea_popescu: nono, you as the settler get the contracts.
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing any volume yet, haven't gotten to that
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: well, if beneficiary fails to state you don't deliver.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: 3. you execute within a fixed timeframe, possibly for a fee.
mircea_popescu: 2. people on the list send you signed messages stating disposition of their cocoa
mircea_popescu: 1. upon settlement date all held contracts are to be delivered, mpex prepares list of fingerprints and amounts, signs the list and sends it to you.
mircea_popescu: well this normally works the following way :
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well this is certainly interesting. what fee would you need for delivery and what min/max volumes ?
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: but incidentally, what exact cocoa is this ? bean ? processed ? powder ? what specs ?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: CIF is Cost, Insurance and Freight to named port.
mircea_popescu: FIS is the ancient "free in store", buyer pays custom duty if any.
mircea_popescu: "Seller pays for carriage to the terminal, except for costs related to import clearance, and assumes all risks up to the point that the goods are unloaded at the terminal."
mircea_popescu: dat is delivered to terminal
mircea_popescu: so. your delivery model is something like what exactly ? CIF ? DAT ? DAP (FIS) ?
mircea_popescu: im not even sure, he might have meant processed
mircea_popescu: no rush.
mircea_popescu: or more like DAT ? you don't clear customs/taxes do you
mircea_popescu: what, CIF any destination ?!
mircea_popescu: where does he pick up his cocoa ?
mircea_popescu: no, what i mean is. suppose X has 500 contracts to take delivery on
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, where'd it be distributed ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder so it washes out.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder if you deposit 2.3btc today for the SEP and then as MAR rolls by the diff actually went way up like 9x, the new collateral is just 3x, but 3x the NEW price, which is 9x.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder there's an important point to consider in the discussion of X.IDIFF margins as the quarters roll by which we skipped over last time.
mircea_popescu: where ?
mircea_popescu: this'd be wonderful.
mircea_popescu: but do you have a cocoa warehouse ?!
mircea_popescu: most people who'd be competent enough to do it either don't want it because it'd likely be low volume to start or legal concerns
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: mpbor. and yes.
mircea_popescu: that's exactly how this works.
mircea_popescu: absolutely.
mircea_popescu: wait. smickles considers himself a mature ?! as in, old pornstar ?!
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yea, lemme hear.
mircea_popescu: ty for pointing out :)
mircea_popescu: otherwise see http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-dedicated-domains/
mircea_popescu: (may take a little to propagate)
mircea_popescu: FabianB it was unrouted. fixed.
mircea_popescu: did the dns get frazzled ?
mircea_popescu: mm
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: haha why you say ?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-and-the-hft-problem/ :D
mircea_popescu: actually, this is why mpex doesn't allow instacancellation of orders :)
mircea_popescu: this is quite the read.
mircea_popescu: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-11/guest-post-five-minute-example-hft-shenanigans
mircea_popescu: it's one point that's been gained through experience so far, gpg is good.
mircea_popescu: in any event more use of pgp can not hurt the new exchanges.
mircea_popescu: oops.
mircea_popescu: a, right.
mircea_popescu: ukto too
mircea_popescu: iirc burnside was saying he'll get the twitter feed.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: there's options on s.dice ?
mircea_popescu: that is pretty cute.
mircea_popescu: http://www.buywithbtc.com/this-week-mpex.html
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob i was going to ask for a few bitcoins off pigeons to pay for it.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-dedicated-domains/ <<
mircea_popescu: lol da fuck ima find worms under 2 feet of snow
mircea_popescu: think i should throw it some bread ?
mircea_popescu: hey pigeons, there's a half frozen hungry desperate dieing pigeon in my yard.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller lemme know.
mircea_popescu: anyway. im off for real. don't break anything!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: in btc ? that's like ^2. or 3.
mircea_popescu: irl people usually advise to buy and hold
mircea_popescu: so im definitely claiming firsts here.
mircea_popescu: not on this massive scale anyway.
mircea_popescu: there's never been an asset returning 10% a year IN BTC
mircea_popescu: but still.
mircea_popescu: a ok
mircea_popescu: 10% return ? in BTC ?
mircea_popescu: but at any rate, take the yearly ffigure : 32k, since april.
mircea_popescu: yes this month. the thing is, i think after the variousdebacles startying with pirate people were loath to dump the 100k it should have commanded.
mircea_popescu: i fail to see how that's correctly.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder actually... they're making 5% a month ?
mircea_popescu: alrighty, too much excitement for one day. catch you all later!
mircea_popescu: crazy day.