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shinohai: I wish my node would sync to either IP,
as it is I'm stuck atm.
danielpbarron: on the topic of time and the pogo, I should point out that I recently had to update the time on my blue pogo (the one i'm using
as a web server / irc client) because it had drifted from the real time by
as much
as a quarter hour in the few months it had been running continuously
flabkebab_: ascii_field:
as in, same file, or
as in same cluster of linked nodes?
danielpbarron: i have not noticed the "network test" except that my actual full nodes sometimes differ by (sometimes rarely)
as much
as a few dozen blocks before eventually settling in on the true height. My transaction sending has been uneffected.
trinque: if someone really wants to "spam" let him pay the fees sufficient to do so, and he can keep that up for
as many blocks
as he likes, bidding against every other person who wants in the block
ascii_field: ^ adding the missing rtc crystal & power source to 'dockstart', machine using same chipset
as pogo
ascii_field has taken to pronouncing 'goat', 'voat', with accent on syllables,
as in 'coax' cabl
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i think a few people are trying, but yes,
as trinque says
ascii_field: may
as well ask him (her!) to set up a gentoo
mod6:
as dumb
as it sounds, i thought about ICMP 13 (dispite it being often fw'd) and checking TS against default route.
decimation: might
as well buy a telescope and start with your navigation tables
decimation: I guess I percieve the reliance on an ntp server for time
as being a much smaller attack surface than relying on operating bitcoind nodes for sync
mircea_popescu: i was entertaining delusions of pogos being used
as net propo for small home miners.
ascii_field:
as mircea_popescu points out, 'once' is a many-time thing here
mircea_popescu: he has a point, he ~can~ sync like that, but only provided he actually did the measurements
as to which star himself.
mircea_popescu: decimation what i said was that if you use usg-supplied cutouts for that reduction, you're just doing a roundabout ntp call. might
as well ask directly
decimation: doesn't need to, treats
as man on the street
ascii_field: he can if it treats his signet
as ultimate authority
decimation: well, there is such a thing
as signed ntp
mircea_popescu: think of time
as capital, and think you're that anon president that opposed hamilton
ascii_field feels like he took that potion from lem's 'futurological congress', which makes one realize that he had no robot servants, just leprous wretches dressed in gabage cans clanking around
as 'robots'
ascii_field: punkman: no good,
as pointed out earlier, because finite planet
mircea_popescu: anyway, took down (
as folklore) by one alexandru donici in the 1800s
mircea_popescu: back at sad farm, there's really little we can do with the bitcoin
as it is, other than acquiesce to the filth of human notions of time.
ascii_field: for so long
as the 'lucky strikes' can't nudge too far
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem of time (
as you rightly observe) is a larger problem than anything bitcoin solves
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: may
as well ship a pc then!
mircea_popescu: it's not that i don't appreciate your intellectual purity. it's merely that things must be made
as correct
as possible and no correcter than that.
ascii_field: realize, time is specified
as an invariant
ascii_field: the idea,
as i understood it, was to let folks set up nodes without human committment
danielpbarron: isn't there supposed to be a way to send commands to the pogo? otherwise how is it useful to me
as a "full node" if I can't query it for blocks/transactions and relay new ones I have created for it?
ascii_field: at this point, any unixlike box with a graphical display may
as well be running winblowz
punkman: "I have intentionally adjusted my teaching materials
as the political winds have shifted." "While I used to pride myself on getting students to question themselves and engage with difficult concepts and texts, I now hesitate. What if this hurts my evaluations and I don't get tenure?"
pete_dushenski: "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis —from due process to scientific method — are dismissed
as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males" << moar gold.
lobbes: "So it's not just that students refuse to countenance uncomfortable ideas — they refuse to engage them, period. Engagement is considered unnecessary,
as the immediate, emotional reactions of students contain all the analysis and judgment that sensitive issues demand." << ayup
jurov:
as opposed to "simple
as possible, but no simpler"?
mircea_popescu: they both engage in making predictions, which are about
as interesting and useful.
mircea_popescu: then stolfi wonders whether i want to be this or that title.
as if a title is in any way useful or related to me.
assbot: Logged on 07-07-2015 04:26:43; *: asciilifeform confesses that he did not know this proof, and,
as a student, wasted a great deal of time trying to devise such a thing
shinohai: I thought that the 0.1% per 1 BTC transacted was reasonable,
as set out in the Declaration of Sovereignty.
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cazalla: yeah, that lee guy uses it
as proof he has a solid reputation in the bitcoin community.. hai guyz i run a bitcoin meetup so pls gief me 20 mirrion dorrah
decimation:
as in, a symmetric pair for time transmission?
decimation:
as asciilifeform pointed out this comparison would involve some time conversions
decimation: being dumb
as bricks is essentially correct...
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 16:41:04; asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla my current understanding of the ph0rk situation is that your hypothesis re: miners being dumb
as bricks is essentially correct...
trinque: and often just
as fast or faster
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: Really
as fragile
as the thing is atm fuckers ruined my dreams << twas a good dream
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Haven't seen people talking blockheight. Really
as fragile
as the thing is atm fuckers ruined my dreams of blockheight
as "canonical" measure of time
pete_dushenski: "SuperSecretTech: How many bitcoin do you own?" TravisPatron: Not
as many
as I would like."
ascii_field: punkman: keyserver is presumably for use
as a keyserver, rather than place to hang the severed heads of pwned folks ?
ascii_field: i suppose all the 'proper confucians' with millenium-long time cocks are employed
as colonels in pla or whatnot
ascii_field:
as (i think it was) mircea_popescu pointed out, it looks like the miners have not been sufficiently darwined yet
mircea_popescu: just
as long
as we put THE REAL TIME
as a txn in every block, pogos can be fine
ascii_field: only in so far
as proof-of-work can be used
decimation: essentially there isn't such a thing
as p2p time
trinque: anybody ever looked at tinc
as a starting place for a gossipd?
ascii_field: the former treats the added ip
as equal in status to those dug up from dirt
trinque: ascii_field: and then going down that route, anyone can diddle his pogo soon
as it's in hand
ascii_field: there is no such thing
as a 'trusted node'
decimation: actually happens on linux
as I understand. there's a thing
ascii_field: shinohai: good luck obtaining so much
as ONE system-on-chip for the prototype
ascii_field: but given
as the protocol has no authentication, these could vomit forth literally anything