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mircea_popescu: but making packages
that purport
to be equivalent and
then miss parts seems a bit cosmic ray-y
mircea_popescu: am i correct in reading between
the lines of hanbot's efforts
that in point of fact someone carefully packaged a debian/ubuntu "equivalent" of
the gcc package
that allows static linking which in point of fact and quite pointedly DOES NOT allow static linking ?
mircea_popescu: re
that image, i notice i've mostly been using... nano
trinque: now sum
that across my career... how many superior ways of working have I *not* developed because
the
time involved didn't feel worth it?
trinque: far from impossible, yet cost is
too damn high for me not
to lose interest by
the
time I'm squirting JS at a browser from emacs
trinque: I'm
trumping up an example
that demands composable behavior across several programs
trinque: I want it gone when my cursor leaves, all
that
trinque: jurov: lets say I like
this particular web site's regex
tester, and I want
that in a particular spot each
time I am editing a regex in emacs
trinque: I don't wanna arrange my goddamn
tools each
tie
trinque: wrote a shitty
tool called summon which can launch
things, arrange
them, switch between layouts, so on
trinque: this joke I'm working with currently is
the shanty-house I cobbled
together out of scrap metal
jurov: editor and user interface are actually only small part of
toolset
trinque: asciilifeform: indeed, you've said
this well
throughout
trinque: nothing
that hasn't been said and done before
trinque: not everything;
the layer commonly referred
to as
the user interface should be a programming interface
trinque: jurov: need an environment where
the nerd can develop his own
tools/practices
jurov: if only
two nerds could agree on best
tools and practices...imo other professions have much less fragmentation
trinque: so here I am in 2015 with stumpwm stapled
to emacs, blood leaking from
the field sutures
trinque: as an appliance,
the
thing should obviously have one button labeled "cook", and no
thought required from
there
trinque: the utter lack of programmability (automator? lol, fuck off) shows
they did not even consider how a
thinking person would use
the
thing
trinque: wanted
to make sure
the buttons on
the
thing were designed just so
trinque: I
think he saw a computer as an appliance
trinque: come on, lets get asciilifeform a
turtleneck
trinque: imagine if he'd been mean and understood a computer at
the same
time
mircea_popescu: don't knock "being mean". it alone is enough
to succeed in
twerpland.
trinque: worlds most profitable
toy company
trinque: looking at where it ended up, I don't really have
that much respect for Jobs
mircea_popescu: "how obama made sense in english" "how putin doesn't understand how
the world works" "how a bored housewife discovered
the secret barbers hate"
mircea_popescu: "how X did Y
that
they never actually did but hey, marketing!"
trinque: every shartup in
the valley has someone who
thinks he's jobs
assbot: How
Two Bored 1970s Housewives Helped Create
The PC Industry | Fast Company | Business + Innovation ... (
http://bit.ly/1I2Xpsw )
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah, it ruins
the polymer, you end up with a milky white, brittle
thing
shinohai: I haven't. Does
the acid do something unique?
pete_dushenski: ector,
the origins of
the personal computer cannot be separated from
the story of women in
technology.
The personal computer has always belonged
to all of us." << speaking of women.
pete_dushenski: "we've forgotten how
two women from California ran a firm
that pioneered influential practices such as attention
to product aesthetics, vertical integration (Vector has its own in-house software developers), and establishing
training networks, providing packaged PC solutions, and
treating employees like an extended family. Some of what Vector pioneered is now intertwined into
the
tech industry's DNA.
Thanks
to V
shinohai: Well, guess I'll just rinse
this out and stretch it over
the end of
the broom
to dry ....
trinque: but maybe
this is due
to inferior american condom stock
trinque: I find
the damn
things extremely annoying
pete_dushenski: i dun
think i ever broke more
than one magnum in all my years.
mircea_popescu: for
the past year or so, using local stuff. never broke one. went
through 2-300 by now.
mircea_popescu: speaking of condoms... for many years, i was using imported magnums. broke like...i dunno,
twenty over a decade ? easily 1%.
☟︎ trinque: the difference seemed
to address a need I have for picking
the damn
thing up, breaking it, so on,
to understand fully
trinque: was interesting, I hadn't read
that profile before, and it seemed
to fit rather well
trinque: got ISTP
this
time, whereas in
the past INTP
trinque: I bothered
to
take
the first myers-briggs
test on your penultimate post
trinque: gotta snag
those outbound clicks
pete_dushenski: seems ddg does
the same stupid link stealing
that goog does...
pete_dushenski: i didn't get
the 'emoji'
tie-in
till i just
tried searching for images a minute ago.
jurov: dunno, maybe shakira would be suitable pictogram for nuclear device
too
pete_dushenski: i honestly
thought it was just a response
to coke's bizarrely succesful 'names' campaign
trinque: how hip and relevant of
them
jurov: here
they just slapped on various football (read: soccer) players and shakira
trinque: lol @ smiley on
the nuke button
jurov: lol first
time i saw
that.
they prolly knew it's not suitable in
this corner of world
jurov wonders what warning/pictogram would alf put
to a code actually controlling a
thermonuclear device
shinohai: Every build I have
tried so far has been smooth *except* for
the pogo, pirate warnings be damned.
pete_dushenski: that may be your intention, but
that's not necessarily what comes across
pete_dushenski: "Barack Obama
told Kenyans on his first presidential
trip
to his father's homeland
that
there was "no limit
to what you can achieve" but said
they had
to deepen democracy,
tackle corruption and end exclusion based on gender or ethnicity." << lulz.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 15:46:22; mircea_popescu:
this is very much unlike
the situation of say, damascus steel
shinohai: I inherited one from my grandmother, wouldn't
take a bzillion dollars for it.
shinohai: I'm actually following asciilifeform 's excellent
tea advice
today while doing pogo research. On my second pot already.
mircea_popescu: can hit refresh in
the meanwhile or do something else :D
shinohai: Because DDOS is
the greatest
tool of
todays breed of 1337 haxx0rs.
mircea_popescu: this is very much unlike
the situation of say, damascus steel
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant "still
there" in a more abstract sense. yes
there's not currently hay supplies and horse barns. but if need be -
they can be.
shinohai: I haven't been
to
theatre in forever, but I do plan on going
to see Hateful Eight.