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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I
think it started earlier
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, it was a carnegie, and rockefeller, and so on and so on
thing
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 00:24:34; asciilifeform: specifically,
the one
thing edison is known with certainty
to have invented is inferior-tech-empire-propped-by-pseudoentrepreneurial-fud
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1215525 << dunno
that edison invented
this. it was quintessential
to
the forging of
the original us,
the construct
that for
the first
time mattered on
the world stage, giving
the dollar like any purchasing power whatsoever << Probably actually started when US and Britain fought for monopoly
to impress North Americans into maritime service
☝︎ decimation: well, we've seen
the 'american century'
mircea_popescu: still, you know -
that old question of "so you want
the mike - what are you going
to say into it ?"
decimation: after wwi anyone who wasn't a dead or on fire was by default
the 'winner'
decimation: well, europe destroying itself didn't help
their case either
mircea_popescu: edison definitely instrumental in all of
this, but
there's a good half dozen names involved.
mircea_popescu: and for
the first
time making it worth something projectively. prior
to
that, it was just measured by
the world, as anything. exported
to china for its silver weight etc.
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 00:24:34; asciilifeform: specifically,
the one
thing edison is known with certainty
to have invented is inferior-tech-empire-propped-by-pseudoentrepreneurial-fud
BingoBoingo: Anyways
the Nordics introduced death
to America first when
they collapsed Red civilization with biological
terrorist attacks.
phf: it's sitll pax americana last
time i checked, so everyone's a hater
BingoBoingo: decimation: Not really how it works. Same name covers about 15 very different
trucks any given year.
mircea_popescu: also, anyone who
thinks "america has brought porn" is a fucktard of prime order.
decimation: well, yes it is
true
to see
trucks like
that are very expensive
BingoBoingo: <decimation> "And before some idiot American yells "we saved you in ww2!". No, you did not. America allied with Communism and slaughtered millions of Europeans. America has brought death, porn and gmo's. FUCK YOU" << Pretty sure German actually was on
the GMO crop
train first
decimation: it's quite common
to see
them fitted with diesels
that generate more
than 400 brake hp
decimation: ?
trucks in
the us have gigantic engies
decimation: somehow it's okay
to drive a gigantic
truck with seats (suv) but a minivan isn't - even
though it's more efficient and generally can carry more stuff
mircea_popescu: 1.3k cc engine "trucks"
that can't climb a 3% incline.
decimation: there's a weird cultural
thing in america about minivans
mircea_popescu: next you knew, bmw and mercedes were falling over each othert
toi make "suv"s
mircea_popescu: they came up with
thje "let's put a lawnmower engine in
ten cubic meters of injected plastic"
thing all on
their own
decimation: (assuming he is
talking about
the forced repatriation of ethnic germans
decimation: ^
this is
true and completely untaught in
the us
decimation: lol from
the youtube comments of
that Amerika song: "There is absolutely nothing positive in germany
that comes from America. America's entire auto industry re-packages
their cars from German made models.
This model of doing business is used on every
thing America sells. "
mircea_popescu: a facility which is both why so very few women do anything notable and at
the same
time why stuff like language even maintains any sort of continuity over
time.
mircea_popescu: the avatars of "common sense" as held by
the mentally stunted adult roman woman of "respectable extraction" would find exact equivalents in
the heads of your new york rachel fucktard
today, or in
the heads of british imbecile a century ago, or wherever else. and it'd
take
them all of half an hour
to start nodding approvingly at each other
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 00:23:54; asciilifeform: nubbins`:
the philosophical (if not in any detectable way historical) continuity of microshit and edison's
thing
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 00:19:03; nubbins`: and
then literally reversed a bunch of
the
terms in
the next version, so a site was now a web and a web was now a site
mircea_popescu: <phf>
the "west" ascii is
talking about, is
the place
that only existed on
the 80s vhs
tapes. << word srsly.
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thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: didn't
take you for a mission impossible fan.
decimation: which is why
they spaz out whenver something slightly right-wing happens in
the us, and meanwhile award obama
the nobel
decimation: yarvin pointed
this out as well: you failed
to live up
to
the america you propagandised us into believing in!
decimation: phf: I
think
this is
the root of about 90% of euro hate on
the us
gernika: There's a generation of americans
that believed in
those ads and movies
too.
BingoBoingo: The only really appealing
thing from any of
those films I've seen was
the gum.
mats: not so secret,
the IMF
BingoBoingo: Only Hollywood movies where CIA is an antagonist are
the ones where
Tom Cruise works for a still more secret agency
phf: the "west" ascii is
talking about, is
the place
that only existed on
the 80s vhs
tapes.
phf: there's a lot of russian jews working at NIH, self style soviet dissidents, who now run various research departments same way as
they were doing it back
then.
the common sentiment is basically "we've been had for a pair of chinese jeans"
phf: BingoBoingo:
there's an entire generation of foreigners who believed in
the america of coca cola commercials and schwarzenegger movies.
they
thought
the aspirational simulacrum is
the real deal. so of course moving here was a huge letdown.
nubbins`: ok, actually have
to
throw printer out window. seeya
nubbins`: had hoped
to get
the other 2 colours down
today, but..
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> y'know,
the mythical 'west'
that my parents
thought
they were moving us
to << I'd hate
to see
the alternate history where your parents moved you
to ben_vulpes's west
nubbins`: printed some cool SHARKS
today,
tho
nubbins`: good
thing i've gotten 0 accomplished since 2pm
nubbins`: why in
the fuck is
the yellow print head printing black ink?
nubbins`: hey, if you're in
the other washington, china is
to
the west
nubbins`: where specialty coffee is not delivered
to your door
twice monthly, but within walking distance
nubbins`: maybe you need
to move
to a new city ;p
nubbins`: and i've got a
two-minute walk.
nubbins`: i'm not sure why i'm
trying
to help you find a solution
nubbins`: if your complaint is
that
the
thing you want is not literally within 10 minutes of your home
phf: gentooization is
the norm of usg living
nubbins`: you'd actually have
to -- gasp -- go buy
the beans
nubbins`: "coffee subscriptions" are a
thing, even.
nubbins`: asciilifeform
there are plenty of small-batch gourmet roasters
that sell online
nubbins`: phun phact, you have
to pay
TransFair $0.10 for each coffee bag you print
the "fair
trade" logo on
nubbins`: (sweet maria's often makes deals direct with farmers, bypassing "fair
trade" and
the requisite fee structure while also giving farmers more of
the money for
themselves)
nubbins`: compare with most of central america, ethiopia, and others, where you can go
to an actual farm and say "i want
THESE beans" and receive said beans
nubbins`: colombia: all coffee sold
through government ("juan valdez"), always blended
to produce well-rounded, nice, but uninteresting cups
nubbins`: kenya, for example: all coffee is sold
through government auction, where
the beans are sorted not by quality, original, processing method, etc but by SIZE.
phf: nubbins`: i always
thought blends are like multigrain breads, a way
to have a brand separate from
the product, so you can easily substitute your sources
nubbins`: ^ a great place
to start if you're curious
nubbins`: asciilifeform a roast
takes ~6 minutes in a popper
nubbins`: low volume
tho. 1/4cup at a
time.
nubbins`: i used
to buy beans from sweetmarias.com