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asciilifeform: trinque: i went to look at what is php made from ( given all the prodding by mircea_popescu ) and seems to weigh at least as much as the python toolchain
asciilifeform: ( e.g. java, and microshit, prolly the very usg gosplan & central bank run on'em. still liquishit. )
asciilifeform: trinque: imho the moar printolade flowed 'through' $proggy, tends to be the moar of a turd it is
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asciilifeform: trinque: which items ?
asciilifeform: lobbes iirc went to make one, lessee what he comes back with
asciilifeform: blox dun change.
asciilifeform: that'd be perfect case for statics imho
asciilifeform: right. was explaining why i did not see it as a workable cut when wrote mine.
asciilifeform: and that can search from www, without cluttering chans ( my bot doesn't do PM and i intend to keep it that way )
asciilifeform: i like that search links from arbitrarily long ago are clickable and human-readable.
asciilifeform: trinque: this worx because keys are relatively static.
asciilifeform: trinque: and then you gotta delete these ? what if you want the resulting link to remain clickable ?
asciilifeform: this obv. worx in some applications. but i dun grasp how one would implement e.g. searchable log, this way
asciilifeform: but for anyffin moar complicated (e.g. having a search box)
asciilifeform: aa there it naturally worx
asciilifeform: or, for that matter, how do you process e.g. PUT? or url params ?
asciilifeform: trinque: how do you keep the serv from serving it up before 100% written ?
asciilifeform: trinque: on ramdisk ?
asciilifeform: RIP.
asciilifeform: sad.
asciilifeform: or is he completely totalled ?
asciilifeform: trinque: maybe 1st try raising ben_vulpes from his grave ?
asciilifeform: i wish folx would get into the habit of fucking posting their barf
asciilifeform: tru
asciilifeform: trinque: the vtron may be buggy tho. ( i haven't tried personally however )
asciilifeform: i wonder whether in fact died. left without any goodbye -- and his www is frozen exactly as it was
asciilifeform: trinque: indeed a shame that he left. esthlos was a+++ fella while alive.
asciilifeform in fact bothered to see whether it sets off the geigers. almost surprised that it did not.
asciilifeform: cast iron brick, sealed with what passes for governmental seal in current-day orcistan, it alone oughta be interesting in teardown.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in entirely unrelated bizarre : i obtained from a junk seller, what appears to be an orcish serial port card made at РФЯЦ – ВНИИТФ . the famous fortified city. at some pt will make photo-reportage re internals. oughta be interesting from 'how did folx who actually Gave A Shit build their irons?' archaeological pov.
asciilifeform: trinque: i recall sewing 'pehbot' from it, found it a little overengineered (e.g. oopized)
asciilifeform: aa.
asciilifeform: trinque: i suspect the latter rather
asciilifeform: as in, if the pong so happened to be in-phase with last ping -- stayed on
asciilifeform: trinque: interesting -- so it worked 'by accident' ??
asciilifeform: trinque: i was curious specifically re reconnector, in light of lobbes earlier
asciilifeform: oh hm ossabot dis/re-connected (apparently properly)
asciilifeform: i'ma see what mircea_popescu says when wakes up.
asciilifeform: tho possibly still isn't exactly what we traditionally want. e.g. this , possibly oughta match only space-bounded strings when quoted term ?
asciilifeform: lobbes , mircea_popescu , et al ^
asciilifeform: once i do, will make vpatch .
asciilifeform: oook , e.g. this and other quoted-search nao worx from www form. still gotta find out why not worx from bot cmd.
asciilifeform done
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers! about to upgrade 'reader', expect ~10s of down time.
asciilifeform: !!up bvt
asciilifeform: meanwhile , ACHTUNG trinque & ben_vulpes : >>> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-09-06#1000253
asciilifeform: lobbes, diana_coman , et al : logotron page updated to include lobbes's piece !
asciilifeform: i suspect 'go ahead send in us $, we'll give your zimbabwebux instead'
asciilifeform: 'los dolares se pesifican automaticamente' lol!!!
asciilifeform: btw in re 'countries where can't buy test button for geiger' -- is ridiculously impotent ban; all you gotta do is to (carefully!) collect dust from crt monitor screen for coupla wks, and mix into a coupla grams of epoxy. po-210, 214, 218 . (exercise for reader : how did it get there?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i 1st read, thought 'substance abuse'
asciilifeform: however there are some ultra-fascist locales where can't easily buy those (current day ru comes to mind)
asciilifeform: before putting the subj back on the shelf , will also note, you dun actually need the lyso crystal if you have one of those radwaste 'coin' such as comes with old geigers -- can put right on the diode, it is entirely passable detector by itself above 100kEv or so .
asciilifeform: i.e. this old puzzler, is thereby solved.
asciilifeform: ( 'TLP3905' only gives 12uA, and the regulator eats ~7uA as heat, but diode eats only picoamp or so as leakage current when reverse-biased )
asciilifeform: pretty interestingly, imho, no such application is discussed anywhere on the public net. almost as if no one ever gave half a shit .
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, to round off this subthread : toshiba's 'TLP3905' in fact gives 7+v out from ~1.7v in, w/out oscillation. and is ~1 $ in qty. ( so 7 of'em, + e.g. LT3014B micropower linear regulator, would in fact give noiseless +40 for that diode. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is 'dinama' the same busybodies who tried to confiscate the replacement rk i sent you, for 'enviro pollution' ??
asciilifeform: ( and btw it will only ever work as well as the fleanode serv list given in config. ideally oughta give several hand-picked ip )
asciilifeform: hey diana_coman , didja ever manually test the reconnector? i -- did; but from lobbes's bot i have dark suspicion that it doesn't 100% work !!
asciilifeform: !q uptime
asciilifeform: occasionally 1 of these pumps gives out, and then truck shows up to repair the drowned furnace etc. for megabux.
asciilifeform: some of the nearby folx, have actual cellars, and these have pumps going at all times, sorta like bilge pump in ship. they gurgle out to the street periodically.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these here swamp dwellings are built sorta like those huts in vietnam. there's a concrete plinth, and ~1m columns, on these -- the floor.
asciilifeform: aha. mostly -- glue.
asciilifeform: more interestingly, on subj, when put in 'ikea' desk, found that it is impossible to keep ball bearing still on it, no matter how legs are adjusted. the 'wood' gives under weight of displays etc.
asciilifeform: structure is circa 1960 , i think.
asciilifeform when moved into current woodpaste, went in it when it was empty and put ball bearing on the floor. it didn't move.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we weren't even in hruscheba, but in the 19th-c-converted-to-kommunalka . still 100% square walls.
asciilifeform: hm i vaguely recall a thread where lobbes , i think, exclaimed 'i just put my foot through the fucking floor'
asciilifeform: meanwhile in vintage oddball spam via mircea_popescu's link.
asciilifeform: is 'off plumb' a midwest thing, or wat
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dafuq, floor sunk, walls off plumb?! i'm in the most starvation-grade hovel here and my floor is level, and corners are 90 degree
asciilifeform: can. or , rather -- could.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: well, and e.g. howard hughes built the 'spruice goose', world's largest flying tub, also. i was speaking of mass products.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sovok didn't have the magick proximity of the folx who know how to make furniture, and the old-growth timber, aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'ikea' is mega-bestselling here. but, as you might expect, they sell such things as they can get away with to the locals, who can't tell actual wood from glue-an'-dust
asciilifeform: diana_coman: possibly yours wasn't finnish , but locally made, ro has out of what
asciilifeform: aha!! these
asciilifeform: btw another things asciilifeform's ancestors had in sovok that asciilifeform can't buy for any amt of money in gringolandia -- the famous 'finnish wall'(tm) -- y'know (or maybe not know?) this thing, cabinets, glass-doored bookshelves, that fill a wall
asciilifeform: i suppose makes sense -- finn forests are furniture-grade
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why would finns, whose ~sole export is timber, build a paper mill in BingoBoingostan?!
asciilifeform: lol, finns?!
asciilifeform: a.
asciilifeform: i still dunget it... is it american paper mill? or wat
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what do the orcs have against paper ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: square links only work if have the htt... prefix
asciilifeform: for parking on sidewalk.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lemme guess, they ticketed a motoroller
asciilifeform sadly not expert classicist in ro-sovok; from it knows only 'trei culori cunosc pe lume...'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: just about .
asciilifeform cold, as a stone, to 'rock' and the other digestive enzymes of the octopus.
asciilifeform: in fact ~this~ is largely for what asciilifeform uses his sound card.
asciilifeform even as a child, was allergic, so prolly last 1 who should be asked. and in fact if could buy a martian radio that somehow tunes, back in space and time, in sovok circa 1984 -- ~would~ .
asciilifeform brb:teatime
asciilifeform: the linked piece. i dun know the cultural refs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: illuminate plox ?
asciilifeform: apropos : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934034 << this gripe is factual -- cl standard was written by 'tower of babel' and specifically excluded unix knobs. so all ~usable pc lisps in fact have nonstandard knobs for threads, sockets, etc. iirc this was detailed in prev. threads.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934022 << can't resist the bait -- neither the 3y of phf's logger, nor deedbot, 'useful' ? ( or does 'see' require that proggy is actually published ? or wat. )