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mircea_popescu: and yes it was a real character. the guy didn't write fiction. he just wrote well and so plenty of his ethnographic notations read more like blogposts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion of making statues for imaginary entities was not really well rooted. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <trinque> re: being loved and/or feared << it's actually a quote from that de niro film :D chaz palminteri says it :D
mircea_popescu: i dun think i'd eat person unless it tasted well.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that theory.
trinque: and hopefully much more of the latter, in the future
trinque: hence we are a species that inhabits every continent, and sometimes space beyond
trinque: no matter how high a man ascends, he is also that
gernika: My Dad did enjoy telling me the story of the Donner Party. One of his favorites.
trinque: death is always there, staring at you
gernika: Saddest stories I read in school were Bridge to Terebithia, and Where the Red Fern Grows. Not comparable to Fefeleaga I don't think.
trinque: admitting death, perhaps we are freer to do as we please in life
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trinque: that freedom is why the story made me smile, horrible though it is
trinque: there is freedom in that, but I'm not ready to articulate it
trinque: but then too, my end is just like hers
trinque: this is what we will amount to absent intelligence, luck, etc
trinque: and indeed, fefeleaga is the baseline
trinque: asciilifeform: first off, goddamn if I didn't just bellow laughter across the bar at "for piglet!"
asciilifeform: it is the other items on the menu which are experimental, high-tech oddities, like particle accelerator.
asciilifeform: and 'The impulse to cling to youth at all costs, to attempt to preserve your sexual attraction, to see even in middle age a future for yourself and not merely for your children, is a thing of recent growth and has only precariously established itself. It will probably disappear again when our standard of living drops and our birth-rate rises.'
asciilifeform: see mr.o, 'The great mass of human beings are not acutely selfish. After the age of about thirty they almost abandon the sense of being individuals at all — and live chiefly for others, or are simply smothered under drudgery. But there is also the minority of gifted, willful people who are determined to live their own lives to the end'
asciilifeform: trinque: the thing about fefeleaga in my mind is that the stock off-the-shelf model of existence is a guaranteed suckfest.
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 21:47:45; assbot: Logged on 03-02-2015 23:43:58; asciilifeform: winnie pooh walks into a butcher's shop, asks 'got mortadella' ? answer, 'sure' winnie pooh draws a submachinegun and spins round, round, round with it, mowing down everything that moves: 'for piiigleet!'
asciilifeform: trinque: the mind that invents death ray and spins round, round, round with it, 'for piglet!'
trinque: and since such thoughts are usually associated with a sort of brutal perspective, let me ask: which is worse, the mind which accepts the harsh reality of existing or the one which struggles against it?
trinque: not a goddamn thing. as (*clears his throat*) MJK of Tool wrote, "The universe is hostile, so impersonal. Devour to survive; so it is, so it's always been."
trinque: look at her abjection, and yet, what could you possibly do to prevent future Fefeleagas
trinque: relates imo to the Fefeleaga story
trinque: a guy I respect told me that one could maybe hope to change the world in one specific way, but that intending to change the world arbitrarily was the mark of hubris
asciilifeform: so extra-depressionified the story
asciilifeform: this is again reminiscent of 'grave of the fireflies', autobiographical animation, author's father - unlike protagonist's - came back from jp navy; author - did not starve in an underground station. but he WISHED that he had
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there a soviet mega-statuelith of fefeleaga somewhere ?
asciilifeform: what are the belching smokestacks doing in the background ?!!
asciilifeform: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Pomn%C3%ADk_Mary%C4%8Dky_Magdonov%C3%A9.jpg << mega-winner of a statue! betcha the kidz think the chick died as a partizan in ww2
asciilifeform: cazalla: if you have an existing stator, clean out the guts and use that.
cazalla: specifically "and fill distfiles with tarballs, etc. as before." is this just all the patches?
cazalla: asciilifeform, in your rotor guide, can you help me understand what step 6 asks me to do?
trinque: if the point about culture wasn't made well enough already...
trinque: jesus christ my sister just quoted The Prince and called it a quote from The Office
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asciilifeform interestingly, understands the spoken cz much quicker than written
trinque: ^ I greatly enjoy encountering this... actual culture
assbot: Fefeleaga. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hc9l59 )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://trilema.com/2015/fefeleaga/#comment-115039
asciilifeform: mod6: just a replay of patch history, but this time with 'vdiff' in place of conventional diff
cazalla: http://i.imgur.com/LxfsCfc.jpg included in the photobook my missus and other folks bought from local play centre.. because that is what i always wanted, a photo of a photo of my son.. actually surprised they included a dvd minus watermarks all over the images
mod6: well... heh. I thought i'd get the chance to dive into your new email asciilifeform. But, guess it'll have to be tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im vaguely contemplating hiring an indiancandy to counter woe-shannonizer with the -1 * equivalent
mircea_popescu: cazalla ie all teh scamcopins ? lol
trinque: gets them ready to rejoin the pretend workforce
trinque: nope, gotta pretend to work at least part of the day
asciilifeform: btw, i will have mircea_popescu know that prisoners, at least in usa, do ~not~ get to sleep ad libitum.
cazalla: it already has over taken doge, only paycoin and that icelandic? coin has done so in the past
mircea_popescu wonders if asciilifeform has pre-made file with the woe me stuff, or generates them on the fly.
mircea_popescu: or whatever the scamcoin was before that.
mircea_popescu: it'll take doge over in market cap
cazalla: i am hoping ethereum over takes litecoin in fake market cap just as its first halving occurs for extra lulz and butthurts
asciilifeform: but i don't expect to see the other end of the war in person, either.
asciilifeform: (or, more accurately, until the war)
trinque: if he does, that's somebody else's failing, for sure
asciilifeform: he'll be living with the golden toilet and the palaces forever.
trinque: either way, if you anticipate ethereum going the way of other altcoins (or worse, look at the complexity of the thing), he'll have to live with that on his name forever.
asciilifeform: prolly just thinks 'i crapped this out and the grownups are so dumb! they love it'
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that mr b knows he's a shill
asciilifeform: at least he has the option of not making them
trinque: yeah, he's got plenty of time for more bad decisions
pete_dushenski: 'never have to' is a long ass time
asciilifeform: to me, a fella who doesn't work and will never have to, is ipso facto rich
asciilifeform: i bet his cock ring is worth more than a container of pogo.
asciilifeform: pretty easy. which one drags ass to an office every day
pete_dushenski: hard to demonstrate
asciilifeform: for one thing, i'm not aware of him working for a living
asciilifeform: compared to yours truly
asciilifeform does not know precisely where buterin grew up, but does know that pretty much every kid from that generation dreamed of running a successful scam or racket
trinque: imagine that
trinque: burn it to the ground and make 'em watch
mircea_popescu: because the things that are get the flaw talk, and the things that aren't.... you wouldnt wanna fud some kids' imaginarium nao wouldja./
trinque: thank god that vaguely russian kid is here to nuke the status quo, or whatever it is
mircea_popescu: lol trinque
trinque: ethereum and the fucking... you know what, nevermind.
asciilifeform: on the other hand, the pipe here is not cheap.
asciilifeform: despite being a fanless little thing the size of a stack of 5 inch floppies.
asciilifeform: the home box, thus far, beats the shit out of all the others
pete_dushenski: blame americana advertising for ruining 'good things'
pete_dushenski: and the colonel sanders suit
pete_dushenski: you're the one with the beard, man.
mircea_popescu: wait, i thought it was the beard.
pete_dushenski: come and get us, because the window in which we pursued you closed when you turned 20.
pete_dushenski: "if i suck and can't have love and children and a successful husband, than neither can you !"
pete_dushenski: how cruel, those stage 1ers
mircea_popescu: especially seeing how stage 1 is precisely there to prevent stage 2.
mircea_popescu: well don't blame stage 2 for the movements of stagr 1
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu certainly so that 'teh womenz' don't edit the rag. makes it a two-stage deployment.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of things of which i can't really name anything but hey, a lot of vague vulnerabilities are better than one specifically.
pete_dushenski: clear as the giant forehead on your face
mircea_popescu: i heard this said emptily by a large number of derps, so it must be so.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski well they read it, but they don't edit it rite.
pete_dushenski: "nobody really likes to talk about Bitcoin anymore"
pete_dushenski: it has a sufficiently broad cross-section of readership that it doesn't need electing so much