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asciilifeform: don't misunderstand, defined in strictly gedankenexperiment terms
mircea_popescu: on what grounds do yo uassume this is that ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you add two and substract two and it comes out as what it was it's quantum resistant right ?
BingoBoingo: wyrdmantis: Majority of social media noise not italian, check their grammar
asciilifeform: kinda curious which hardness puzzle they'll bless for 'q-resistant'
mircea_popescu: ridiculous. anyway, let teh usg keep on with the curves, wut.
mircea_popescu: this is directly contradicting the last phrase in the previous snippet.
asciilifeform: hard to say, reads like the output of five separate monkeys who did not have any kind of complete picture each, other than a checklist of 'agenda items' to address
asciilifeform: s they have a long history of security evaluation and time tested implementation that newer proposals do not yet have.'
asciilifeform: 'It is important to note that we aren’t asking vendors to stop implementing the Suite B algorithms and we aren’t asking our national security customers to stop using these algorithms. Rather, we want to give more flexibility to vendors and our customers in the present as we prepare for a quantum safe future. Where elliptic curve protocols are to be used, we prefer Suite B standards be used to the fullest extent possible a
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait wtf, don't move to suite b wait for suite qt ?!
mircea_popescu: too much of it, too woody.
mircea_popescu: i read relatively little of their straight output
asciilifeform: what, thought mr mold & co invented it ?
mircea_popescu: is this now polite terminology inside the perimeter ?
mircea_popescu: wait, "across the usg" ?
asciilifeform: (can't recall this shit being in there earlier this year)
asciilifeform: te B algorithms, we recommend not making a significant expenditure to do so at this point but instead to prepare for the upcoming quantum resistant algorithm transition.'
asciilifeform: tandards bodies to ensure there is a clear plan for getting a new suite of algorithms that are developed in an open and transparent manner that will form the foundation of our next Suite of cryptographic algorithms. Until this new suite is developed and products are available implementing the quantum resistant suite, we will rely on current algorithms. For those partners and vendors that have not yet made the transition to Sui
asciilifeform: 'IAD recognizes that there will be a move, in the not distant future, to a quantum resistant algorithm suite. Based on experience in deploying Suite B, we have determined to start planning and communicating early about the upcoming transition to quantum resistant algorithms. Our ultimate goal is to provide cost effective security against a potential quantum computer. We are working with partners across the USG, vendors, and s
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238620 <<< yeah, sorry about that ☝︎
mircea_popescu: doe will eat enough to raise her young.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, back to the issue. buck will maintain a perimeter of forest edge and brush. with his life.
asciilifeform measured this with own skin
mircea_popescu: so, no. the soviets will be obsessed with units of account.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason argentines are worried about "insecuridad" and mexicans abotu the fucking rain. they published a study here recently - the most worried about global warming is... south fucking america. they're still in the 1850s re sun here, even have their ozone.
mircea_popescu: the biological approach is, "all i need are three meals a day. half a meal a day is less than what i need, five meals a day is more. i prefer the latter"
asciilifeform: at any rate, the fixation with units of account is odd, if speaking of sovietized folk. i'd imagine they would realize that what they really want is 'sleep ad libitum', or even 'mercedes 600', rather than 'bag of benjies' per se
mircea_popescu: it's not hard to explain tho. there's a political and a biological approach to life. the political approach is the thought of the alpha, the thing that results in half decade of trench warfare and a ruined europe : "either you sit lower than me or we fight."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have yet to fully grasp how this particular arithmetic handicap works. what is the mental process like, whereby schmuck doesn't wake up to the fact that 'get 90 while everyone gets 100' is equivalent to 'lose 1, keep 9, when everyone keeps 10' ?
wyrdmantis: i'll just leave this here http://imgur.com/PzD9EVR
mircea_popescu: there's no way to get rich while you sleep that doens't include everyone else getting richer.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as at the time romanians declared they wish the latter, it was irrational.
mircea_popescu: in any case it makes the desires of post-capitalism, the welfare state and the consumerist society, impossible.
asciilifeform: 'your average Romanian fellow would readily prefer to earn 11 units, when everyone else earns 10, instead of an alternative where he earns 90, when everyone else earns 100, indifferent to the fact that 90 is still, significantly above 11. This, in the language, is called "the neighbour's goat problem".' << but this is rational !
mircea_popescu: "teh shield of teh usg was strong in the 50s car industree"
mircea_popescu: do you know how many us car makers were all over japan in the 50s ?
mircea_popescu: like, say, at the time they were butchering around the don. how many hungarian dudes came over to ask questions ? dja know ?
mircea_popescu: before wearing the hungarians as cock decorations ?
mircea_popescu: do you know how many inquiries the mongols got from hungarians ?
mircea_popescu: this hasd nothin to do with an yshield.
asciilifeform: e.g., not one sane inquiry from outside of #b-a re: phuctor, to date, afaik
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still i find it interesting how impenetrable the usg 'never happened because we say so' shield is
bitstein: asciilifeform: that's what i suspected
asciilifeform: so far the only thing i can turn up as 'satoshi's pubkey' is his coin addrs' privkeys
mircea_popescu: in other cases, by the case.
mircea_popescu: in that case, in the positive, me.
asciilifeform: for all we know, original key is shared by the 1,001 nsa contractors who wrote the turd
asciilifeform: but who's to say what has or has not been shared.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or, if all else fails, the original gavinalert key. << not acceptable, been shared.
mircea_popescu: let me know if it actually makes any sense or i summarized to omuch
assbot: The jerking around, a modern bedtime pattern. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NxugJO )
asciilifeform: trying to turn up something that was actually signed, ever, by 'satoshi'
asciilifeform: l0l 'john titor'
bitstein: Spoiler warning: that "proof" on reddit was bs.
BingoBoingo too busy loading up the gallblader
asciilifeform: somebody cook up a key with that fp as seen in idiot winblows pgp, and sign, for the lulz
asciilifeform: esp re: the 32-bit fp
bitstein: BingoBoingo: What has he actually signed? Nothing is coming to mind immediately.
asciilifeform: or, if all else fails, the original gavinalert key.
BingoBoingo: He signed enough that his signature could attest he wrote it or was rectotherm'd
bitstein: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo: Satoshi didn't actually sign much (if anything?), so it would be hard to verify regardless.
BingoBoingo: bitstein: Well can't use the @gmx.whatever email anymore because haxxed. Curiously not signed
bitstein: Didn't see this in the logs. Someone claiming to be Satoshi posted on the bitcoin-dev list: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html
bitstein: Yea, mostly lurkin these days.
King_Rex: mircea_popescu i read Fefeleaga, thanks for posting
mod6: asciilifeform: I have successfully reproduced the rel1.patch on my own now with the same matching antecedent/new hashes. I have script that reproduces this all the way up through v0.5.3.1 -- will continue on and do the same for up through v0.5.4 before let everyone see. But, so far, so good.
mircea_popescu: even max keiser is still talking.
King_Rex: link? does this mean he'll stop talking?
BingoBoingo: King_Rex: Thoughts on Hearn dropping his pants today?
BingoBoingo: After research Phils does not seem like a destination to linger long when exit comes, if it even still makes the list by the time I get out.
mircea_popescu: i was curious about dishes too, but i didn't expect to find them in the gutter.
mircea_popescu: more of the "lowest common denominator is representatives for groups" ideology crashing on the jagged shores of reality.
BingoBoingo: "We were open to new things, we were willing to eat anything locals gave us and we were so curious about new dishes. That has changed after 4 days of stomachache, dizziness and feeling overtired and bloated." << Made for Redditing
assbot: I Would Rather Go Hungry Than Eat Filipino Street Food Again! - eTramping.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1ITJZzC )
BingoBoingo: Looking that way with blocks. Gotta remember Chicoms mine SPV, prolly haven't fiddled that string yet
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Third graph http://xtnodes.com/ so far 0
kakobrekla: anyone running a tally on last blocks supporting increase?
asciilifeform: zulag shall down for maintenance for most of today, starting 30 seconds ago.
mircea_popescu: shorting instrument my foot. it can't be shorted for the same reason you can't short random idiot's imaginary girlfriend.
BingoBoingo going out to pick up some venom and bile. I can't even today.
BingoBoingo suggest shorting instrument be refered to a TexasCoin or TXCoin for the phillipino's lulz and dyslexia
mircea_popescu: it will be absolutely great if they scam any exchange into accepting their shit as bitcoin, or otherwise if any retards pay money for xtc.
asciilifeform can't wait for the first tard block
mircea_popescu: not so much can be said about the anglos.
mircea_popescu: even if they have to be beaten with a nailed plank first
asciilifeform: nah, in the land of the cat&dog eaters
mircea_popescu: or any other place where the bar to entry is not as high as to exclude the urban poor.
mircea_popescu: no shortage of tyhe latter ON REDDIT
asciilifeform: as suggested by the july 4 incident
mircea_popescu: count the eth mining power.
asciilifeform: hey, no shortage of the latter
mircea_popescu: it would have to.
assbot: Mike Hearn is saying Fork might ignore the longest chain! : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiUp0Y )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Idea of it was, then he released some binaries earlier this week for turd platforms. Now declaration of forking.
asciilifeform: a bit surprised to learn that it just now went out.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for some reason i thought that his 'if enough of us, let's open fire' turd was released ages ago
BingoBoingo actually kinda surprised Hearn didn't wait until the first weekend of September to drop his trousers for a fencing contest. Shitgnommery was starting to get a pattern.
asciilifeform has a separate display panel for the nodez, if anyone wondered, yes
mircea_popescu: and the kids coming after that just built on the habit.