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mircea_popescu: "explosion of complexity", ie, the need for manuals.
asciilifeform: and various oddities not really used in modern times.
mircea_popescu: i can write a manual for how to interact with my file with hashes in it
asciilifeform: throwing garbage into a vt100-compatible terminal breaks things for reasons that are not mysterious at all. rtfm?
mircea_popescu: there is necessarily no difference, at the conceptual level we're discussing, between "don't put hash in file" and "ascii doesn't exist"
punkman: best thing you can do with text encodings is guess
mircea_popescu: the fact that your cat /dev/random breaks things is PROOF that you are already using something like "hash" in your file.
mircea_popescu: so then how do you resolve this ?
kakobrekla: happens when i tail the wrong thing.
asciilifeform: you will even notice that sometimes this results in a permanently b0rk3d terminal.
asciilifeform: some codes were reserved for line feed, dinging the bell (yes), etc.
asciilifeform: on the basis of the fella who build the vt100
mircea_popescu: but on what basis does this particular alphabet exist.
asciilifeform: (that is, unconstrained to printable chars)
asciilifeform: 2) have to represent the header differently if payload is meant to be displayable ascii, than if it is a binary
asciilifeform: 1) now i have to remove the header before hashing the payload
asciilifeform: if i want to embed hashes next to their payload, i get an explosion of complexity. because,
asciilifeform: let's work this out.
mircea_popescu: but these are numbers.
asciilifeform: i can (and often do) sign a tar.gz
asciilifeform: if you care what's inside, now you have to cut it
mircea_popescu: because what is the difference between "this file is noted in ascii" and "this file includes a hash"
asciilifeform: can have what you want in the file
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform back to the earlier issue. how do you reconcile your concept of "a file" with your concept of notation ?
mircea_popescu: except you can't "coin" anything if nobody ever heard about you or cared to read your stuff.
mircea_popescu: The term "alexithymia" was coined by psychotherapist Peter Sifneos in 1973
mircea_popescu: because if you say it in greek it ceases to be contemptibly stuopid.
mircea_popescu: in any case, sure, "buterin and hearn invented bitcoin in 2017" is just about the same deal.
asciilifeform: soviet elephants are the biggest in the world!
mircea_popescu: but i am curious to see if this new trend will in some sort of timeframe bring us the black man invented cellphone of 2020
asciilifeform doesn't typically bother to read these
asciilifeform: it isn't an article, it is cant, and this is detectable via five-second litmus of first paragraphs
mircea_popescu: the two women named, miller and the other one, are unrelated to any academic field and especially unimportant for child rearing or child psychology.
mircea_popescu: b) it readily describes all sorts of known-broken apprtoaches and techniques. such as the use of blackmail. it pointedly has nothing to do with either beating or set time breastfeeding
BingoBoingo: Lafond guy seems to have some good stuff, a lot of bad stuff, and some interesting fiction. Just that accounting for getting hit in the head part takes work.
mircea_popescu: a) the term is older than freud
asciilifeform: i have been to them. prior to their burning.
BingoBoingo: I've always confused him with diametric. In this case I think I confused with you because you talked about having been to the burning places in Baltimore now that I think about it.
cazalla: asciilifeform, what am i looking for in netstat? also, i still had 8333 port forwarding in router going on for 0.8.3, might that be the problem?
BingoBoingo: I can't remember the details of that drama, but damned if I don't confuse him for everyone else
BingoBoingo: Twas the ghost
asciilifeform: ^ was him i think.
asciilifeform: dun think so.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: To be fair I read him now because you introduced him to this chan, and seriously who respects the fantasy worlds of a Briton?
asciilifeform: wtf inglisch speaker doesn't know this ?!!!$
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asciilifeform: and this
asciilifeform: and is the only instance
asciilifeform: view process list, is it running with the args you thought you ran with ?
cazalla: accepted connection 54.186.43.50:38455 these and many other ip addresses
asciilifeform: what is in the snipped part ?
cazalla: asciilifeform, at the bottom
asciilifeform: in that log
asciilifeform: cazalla: and you'll be seeing an ocean of 'ConnectInputs failed' if you're not at top block height
cazalla: asciilifeform, are these AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed errors a problem? also is it normal behaviour to gain so many new connections from other ips? i thought i'd only be syncing from dulap http://dpaste.com/3KHQH2A.txt
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1239163 << i read that piece not long ago, while contemplating buying one. ☝︎
shinohai: nice punkman, I had to channel my inner 90's
wyrdmantis: shinoai lolz, i was about to post the same image
shinohai: I appreciate your support to my cause!
trinque: np, bout to depart, so hopefully that gets ya through
shinohai: i searched the logs for HOURS
trinque: how the fuck am I supposed to be able to say that "this one is known to work"
trinque: I don't like that they delete the old stage3's so quickly...
trinque: and finally, the current stage3 in there is actually stale. so you'll have to alter that.
trinque: oh also run as root; it needs to for example loop-mount the image
trinque: it also assumes you have the gentoo releases gpg pubkey
trinque: and the thing's written such that you can go edit the config files easily from within, should you want to
trinque: knobs at the top, will currently squeeze out a root.img in the current directory
trinque: lemme actually sign the thing then
trinque: ah k, and cool; exactly why I targeted that first
shinohai: So I can watch it like Sesame St. until I get the hang of it
shinohai: nah i need something for qemu tbh
trinque: and change two vars at the top
trinque: just have to hack some things out of the lilo config
trinque: right, easy to alter though for an arbitrary block device
shinohai: I remember you posting it but I lost the paste ... for qemu if memory serves
trinque: in teh logs, lemme see
shinohai: trinque: werent you the gentleman that had a gentoo build script?
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BingoBoingo: wyrdmantis: No hurry. I'm probably not going to be to interested if anything comes up anyways and introductions are important. They should have known me first.
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mircea_popescu: hoping to one day find some idiots to "buy" it
BingoBoingo: wyrdmantis: If you know any Wops with a plan that isn't tarded I'd cross the river for that just to get out of Illinois though recent opportunities to take money Illinois would offer other people seem interesting if they pan out.
wyrdmantis: mircea_popescu: i'm italian yes, and telegram is like Whatsapp but free, nothing that may interest you
mod6: Anyone who wants to please be a second pair of eyes here: run the script and then compare the scripts version to ascii's version:
mod6: So I've basically been able to reproduce both of your rel1.patch & rel2-pre.patch -- and I went through your patch with my script's created patch side by side by hand and verified the sha512s
mircea_popescu: i just don't see any cause to suspect this is what they;'re talking about
asciilifeform: but they devour everything
asciilifeform: then - marketards got to it, aha.
asciilifeform: originally well-defined, in the 'theory of edge wave' paper
asciilifeform: individually - one? sure. while exacerbating the others.
mircea_popescu: and as the chief procurer pointed out "if you break the guidance at any point, we're still gonna call it stealth"
asciilifeform: in that aficionados will point to a list of fairly specific, supposedly-'we're almost there' problems, that in point of fact no one knows how to solve ~~in ensemble~~
mircea_popescu: turns out the stealth airplane is not stealth in any sense.
BingoBoingo: wyrdmantis: Any of them with interesting business opportunities in the Middle west?
mircea_popescu: how do you know they are ?
asciilifeform: they are speaking of a particular machine, which no one (as publicly known has built), but, e.g., 'd-wave' fraudulently sold to a few rich schmucks, and the difficulties of construction are not mysterious
mircea_popescu: then again i also didn't know telegram is some sort of chatroom, so.
wyrdmantis: BingoBoingo: yes, i know, but the italian community that uses Telegram chatrooms is on fire tonight
mircea_popescu: there is no basis that i can perceive on which one could propose that the term "quantum" as used by usg in any context has any meaning.