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mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, the WHOLE UTILITY, and in any case the absolutely only reasons people use, like and like to use the web is specifically because of those two things. which makes naggum's perl rant misplaced : perl exhibits the characteristics he bemoans incidentally ; html is fundamentally build out of them and would not interest any of the webtards if it weren't, because it interests ~for them~ specifically.
mircea_popescu: in the end there's two broken points of old html, not merely the whole "statefulness on stateless protocol" cookies bs ; but also the "will mix code in the data nyah nyah nyah".
mircea_popescu: because it was made by and for idiots from back in the day the web was ~equal to ye olde finger utility.
mircea_popescu: "modern" or however we shall call the shit browser errs on the side of loading everything it can
mircea_popescu: hence my comment above,. " we'll have to come to a unified set of something here". just because the line isn't drawn.
mircea_popescu: consider something simple : i took pride publicly on how trilema doesn't load google analytics, thereby giving away the usual set of telemetrics to the usg. fine and good. but your site can be coaxed to load ???.burpcollaborator.net by 3rd party ? so every time a "normal" browser goes by it looks up wtf that doctype is and so on ?
mircea_popescu: trinque yes, but we don't care about that. we just care about our not being dumb.
mircea_popescu: possibly that's the correct cut of this knot, "if you're not sanitizing force pages be text/plain"
mircea_popescu: we'll have to come to a unified set of something here in any case. as it stands right now it's not obvious whether one can or can't point shitfox at random republican website ; nor where to look to find out.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is a source of constant surprise, consider all the time phf sunk into chasing unicode obscura on his logger.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what we have here is a tacit miss-standard, and the discussion is probably of most interest to people who aim to make their own blog thing, phf spyked whoever was looking at lisping it. because on one hand there's the older trilema standard that's web compatible, and on the other hand there's the emerging no shits given approach like on the deedbot site say, "what am i going to do now, alter deeds to mitigate sht brow
mircea_popescu: what, making deedbot go "trinque sniffs dirty undies" isn't bereft of lulz value.
mircea_popescu: note that eg trilema (mp-wp, w/e) takes steps to mitigate this. by for instance not permitting html entities in user contributed fields, see ?
mircea_popescu: trinque he's not even wrong : someone clicks on the link with a shit browser, gets owned by that shit browser.
mircea_popescu: douchebag you realise it rejects unsigned input, do you ?
mircea_popescu: about as fair game as it gets ; part and parcel of history by now.
mircea_popescu: douchebag there's a lengthy history of people's contributions respek, but they have to be contributory.
mircea_popescu: im starting to understand that "the opposite of talking is not listening, the opposite of talking is waiting for your turn" quip may have been adequate in the early postmodern stage ; but by now it's truly a case of "work efficiency is most work with least read." chucka wins in the end.
mircea_popescu: douchebag it will reject unsigned material, look at what deeds it accepted in the past.
mircea_popescu: look into the datastruct, there's black magick reasons.
mircea_popescu: no, i don't swing that way. the girls occasionally swoop in, but not commonly.
mircea_popescu: (sub-subplot : calculate the probability of that statement being true ; show the math you used.)
mircea_popescu: douchebag so you covered say 80% of google's code and 70% of yahoos, and on this basis the 8`844`644 holes you found with yahoo makes you suspect the mere 2`333`156 holes found in google's schweitzer reflect a lesser per-cubit average of holes ?
mircea_popescu: as a subplot, why would a large company require a large codebase ?
mircea_popescu: douchebag how do you know yahoo is more secure than alphabet ?
mircea_popescu: to be established by the number written on the rightmost spot on the odometer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you do this thing as a kid, where you'd go about the parked cars in the street after leaving school to see "asta cit prinde ?!?!" ie, "how fast does this one go ???"
mircea_popescu: two people in euclidean geometry share the priors noted down by euclid. some other guy on a bannach sphere somewhere, does not.
mircea_popescu: douchebag "shared priors" is a term of art, denoting those useful notions that two participants to a discussion share identically.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo by now i suspect they're pasty enough to make great bottoms.
mircea_popescu: in other webs, big bang empire is moderately amusing. you're a pornstar looking for work.
mircea_popescu: yet magic doesn't work in the working sense of the verb to work, as found in hospitals as opposed to magic shaman nigger hut.
mircea_popescu: but hey -- vulnweb "works" and therefore... "works". the confusion between these workings is lost to the noob. and yet... magic also "works" in the first case -- when magician/warlock/condoleeza rice walk into room with sickman and wave magic wand, SOMETIMES IT HEALS IT!!!
mircea_popescu: and the only folk to whom the difference is immaterial are our stone age friends from the cargo-cult, cave dwellers as they find themselves.
mircea_popescu: the situation is approximately the same as of a "young aspiring gold prospector" who goes to the designated ROOM in his local community center, where he spits on some pebbles / digs through the plasticine cubes.
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with pantsuit "tools", branded however they may be branded : there's 0 marginal utility to them.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless... do you expect the 62nd application of the same magic wand upon trilema is liable to yield anything more, or better, than the previous 61 ?
mircea_popescu: it is sold to ignorant youths on the basis that "hey, SOMETIMES it yields results, when applied randomly to the web". that may be, as Framedragger 's ssh tests or phuctor dredged up, everything, every last bit of nonsense can be found "on the web".
mircea_popescu looks into the logs, sees 62 instances of eg -
http://testasp.vulnweb.com/t/fit.txt%3F.jpg and similar garbage. this, of course, is "web security" or "penetration testing", or however you'd call it. a set of "tools", no doubt "professional" that permit one A CERTAIN KIND of cargo-cultish periphrastic cvasi-but-not-really involvement in their chosen field.
mircea_popescu: lobbes considering what the level of committment required to try it is... what, waste 20 bux ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which may be the last time this (ie, sane people working) even occured.
mircea_popescu: i suppose a logical next step for pizarro is to have a bot dedicated to listing who's on boxes, what the load is like etc.
mircea_popescu: imo brits are the dumbest of animals, and for two reasons : the constant rape the muslims put them through, and the constant rape the real estatists put them through.
mircea_popescu: ever been to england btw ? worse wastage of construction materials never was seen.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, walls in apt building is the linux user system. you're thinking of english "cottages" piled up in town, each with their 3 sq ft "garden" in front.
mircea_popescu: particularly ill suited application for ibm compatible designed hardware.
mircea_popescu: it's the pantsuit gift of "progress", tends to soak up about 60% of the living life to do nothing at all. much like their tax system.
mircea_popescu: which 60% can also be used to... you know, buffer the occasional mass mysql rewrite or w/e user needs
mircea_popescu: yes, i expect 60% of the box goes to that wastage by now.
mircea_popescu: well if you're not using it to publish web shits, get a proper box.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how will anyone eat all the ram, apache runs as nobody anyway.
mircea_popescu: not even sure what it'd take, but we could have a competition, "shorters bash line that hoses box"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've not yet managed to properly speaking hose a modern box (hosed as in, root can't log in to fix it)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends what host. a blog ? i dunno man, what sikrits can they glean!!!!
mircea_popescu: if there's actual demand for some reason, can always stand up a box with all that crap later. or entreprising fellow can just resell one.