asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934699 << in the orig. '17 thread re 'make cpu', mircea_popescu made the observation 'the sticker prices have 3 or 4 extra zeros on'em', i.e. pointless to even ask the q before we have penetration into the asian snakepits where iron is actually baked. without such, we're stuck looking at the chump ratecards.
asciilifeform: the orig q was re line rate of nic. but even the modest piz pipe , 200Mbit/s , is good for ~50k 512B packets / sec , when otherwise unloaded.
asciilifeform: doesn't figure prominently in opensores liquishit -- is tru
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934647 << thing has install base that dwarfs apache. ( it's in the bootloader of erry single sgi, sun, even crapple box sold to date; in 1e6 pieces of embedded equip., and whole buncha 'unsexy' irons, from mains transformers, burglar alarms, etc., possibly even in yer mercedes. )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934457 << in orig q i was thinking 'does this personage correspond to a wot key', prolly oughta have said concretely. ( if mircea_popescu had revealed the chix's human name, this would not have meant anyffin to asciilifeform et al )
asciilifeform: aaand this is counting whole interval, in which not only rsa but e.g. keccak padding calc. gotta happen.
asciilifeform: ( btw , for thread-completeness -- you need 4096 modexp in < 3.8 ~microsecond~ to eat GB at line-rate. )
asciilifeform: i certainly wouldn't invite anyone to pay to build such space station until thoroughly familiar with working example 'in soft'
asciilifeform: a gb nic can theoretically swallow 2**18 512b packets / sec .
asciilifeform: i'ma get it to the point where does the job orig. promised. but 'unsinkable network battleship' will have to wait for actual irons , as i understand .
asciilifeform: you can parallelize the work, but the amt of effective diff it makes , is relatively small when compared to the absolute size of the above shortfall.
asciilifeform: but important to remember that yer nic can still eat 512b shitograms roughly 10,000x faster than you can modexp on'em . even w/ bvt's asmisms.
asciilifeform: trinque: the slow prototype is what asciilifeform (is slowly getting back nao!) to working on .
asciilifeform: trinque: it would indeed 'cut world', in the sense that gives you a gossiptronic net fully layered over the traditional one. and with dozen+ entrance boxen, suddenly impossible to effectively ddos anything on the inner (i.e. what comes out of the 2nd plug) world.
asciilifeform: i'm inclined to agree. but possibly asciilifeform is that last one who oughta talk about 'what has market', asciilifeform also thought FG had mega-market waiting.
asciilifeform: i proposed it in '16 as a 'gateway' into gossipnet. ( eats packets at line rate, emits from 2nd nic hole the ones that were found edible. )
asciilifeform: their physical size is ~cube of the bitness , and speed of light is finite.
asciilifeform: aha. tho presently i doubt that it's physically possible to make a 4096x4096b multiplier converge in <1ns
asciilifeform: this figure for e.g. 65nm . i.e. ~gz or so, realistically.
asciilifeform: trinque: so, actual honest iron ? 1-2mil transistors. i.e. coupla 100k $ for 1st tray, and afterwards a few cents ea. if baked in qty. as you might expect.
asciilifeform: chuck moor had , famously , complete vlsi production plant in iirc 3k loc of forth .
asciilifeform: i'm not about to ask folx to learn it tho ( asciilifeform in fact quite fond of forth, and used extensively. but i also recognize that to most people utterly 'martian' )
asciilifeform: trinque: for overall smallest mass of system + all needed for $problem ? afaik forth in fact is the unchallenged champ, wherever was historically tried.
asciilifeform: well i was genuinely curious. for all i knew, lighter
