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mircea_popescu: toffoo a good starting point would be the old short contract i made for public use
mircea_popescu: well as a rule of thumb, if loaning them isn't a good idea selling them usually is a good idea.
mircea_popescu: toffoo he made a fool of himself, as in, went all tough into offering them but then failed to actually go through.
mircea_popescu: toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments.
mircea_popescu: toffoo only in the sense bugpowder is now also looking for shares.
mircea_popescu: they're what cavirtex aspires to be. banking partners and all.
mircea_popescu: and you can't manipulate me into it either, simply because of the size differential.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a school setting and you're certainly not the clever kid in the class or anything.
mircea_popescu: with the expectation someone will argue you into sense.
mircea_popescu: listen, you have this broken approach to learning whereby you make definitive statements that are both wrong and uninformed
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, prices vary a lot more than that for a lot less reason.
mircea_popescu: for the record, bitbet is a tiny corp and collected something like that.
mircea_popescu: you were just born last night so you think this morning is "the best morning to date".
mircea_popescu: what, thre's some golden rule that all ipos must happen on mpex or something ?
mircea_popescu: "The other factor, of course, is that Bitcoin can't be manipulated as easily as gold and silver obviously are. "
mircea_popescu: next thing out of my mouth was "so are you lending stock ?" but averted.
mircea_popescu: so basically you hold the early option to 1.8th of bfl
mircea_popescu: topace those do poorly historically. what's it got, fpga ?
mircea_popescu: yes dude, you are. that's what fucking up is. missing body parts.
mircea_popescu: and in general, when you're sent to do reading it's because you're sprouting nonsense.
mircea_popescu: read the forum threads linked above, i won't bother rehashing it.
mircea_popescu: the fact that they've cost their investors 100k btc or so makes me jelly.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi ya dude, totally. the fact that they failed to meet spec is something that makes me jelly.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi you may not be the only one that thinks that's silly, but that's quite irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: people who think they're smarter are much akin to the street prophets in ny.
mircea_popescu: the fact that asicminer fucked up their ipo is NOT an excuse for them
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi the trade volume IS the controlling argument.
mircea_popescu: the fact that i can't see it speaks against it not excusing it.
mircea_popescu: 2x asicminer volume yest. why is that ? is cavirtex a larger corp than asicminer ?