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mircea_popescu: but that does not mean that your google shares aren't what your eggs are ultimately bought with
mircea_popescu: you notably can't buy eggs directly with google shares.
mircea_popescu: i would think that's exactly it. buying btc is buying shares in the new world order.
mircea_popescu: at least for eggs
mircea_popescu: and then just spend that
mircea_popescu: i imagine the way it'd work out in practice is you sell out some satoshi for a wad of zimbabew dollars or w/e
mircea_popescu: totally.
mircea_popescu: once btc reflects its true value (ie, fiat M3 / btc m3) you can pretty much count that forever more you'll get an egg for 3 satoshi or w/e that works out to
mircea_popescu: bgupta i wouldsay the 500 eggs for 1 btc is mostly an effect of btc price being de facto supressed through ignorance/it being new
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only us citizens that like taxes are those who get a net benefit from govt servicing.
mircea_popescu: bgupta i guess you get to watch it unfold.
mircea_popescu: or moreover, of the incredibly brokedness of socialism as a form of govt.
mircea_popescu: (tho the fact that the mob defeats socialist states everywhere, from russia to iran and etc) is pretty good proof of the superiority of the system
mircea_popescu: this amply proves why central socialist govt is worse than the mob
mircea_popescu: there's currently a trolling technique called "swatting".
mircea_popescu: "all politics is local politics" and all that.
mircea_popescu: bgupta i can, it'd be better than current bs.
mircea_popescu: this idea that we're all equal and so forth is pernicious.
mircea_popescu: they burn, they get redeveloped into houses for rich people, the poor get to live in as servants
mircea_popescu: which'd be nice to see.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if greek remaining bits are any indication, political debate would move to include a large chunk of "let me tell you how much i've donated"
mircea_popescu: benkay what'd that problem be ?
mircea_popescu: perfect example of marketplace curtailing political idiocy.
mircea_popescu: wunderbar,.
mircea_popescu: so within a few weeks tsa would break down and go away/
mircea_popescu: bgupta i would absolutely not pay a cent for the tsa say
mircea_popescu: if you propose paying for no service however, that ain't happening and is going away.
mircea_popescu: dunno, apparently some people.
mircea_popescu: why would anyone be the sucker paying for restaurant meals ?
mircea_popescu: bgupta that is the problem of the people getting paid. klet them explain it.
mircea_popescu: benkay they learn to serve or to starve, i guess.
mircea_popescu: old greek way of doing things.
mircea_popescu: and bitcoin will force that, i'm pretty sure.
mircea_popescu: absolutely.
mircea_popescu: basically he's saying "hehehe, i can shelter from tax, therefore you should tax those who can't do it more"
mircea_popescu: he's paying himself less than his secretary.
mircea_popescu: his argument is disingenous
mircea_popescu: "more taxes" won't touch buffet any more than the current taxes do. however, it WILL make whatever business less profitable, and thus less able to produce "nouveau riches"
mircea_popescu: then politics works as an attempt by the billionaire to use the mob[ile vulgus] as a sort of scarecrow to keep the middle class threading water.
mircea_popescu: in other places you need even less.
mircea_popescu: very abridgedly : if you have a bn dollars you pay about 3-5% in tax, or w/e you want.
mircea_popescu: and b. his only purpose is to fuck up anyone threatening to join his club.
mircea_popescu: the fact is that a. he's only not being taxed because he isn't paying himself a salary (because he doesn't need to)
mircea_popescu: people like buffett, who already made it, come up with "we're not taxed enough" sort of statements.
mircea_popescu: another good angle is this :
mircea_popescu: benkay numbers intended for exemplification purposes only.
mircea_popescu: but it will kill welfarism much sooner than that.
mircea_popescu: bye bye inheritance tax means the system's lifetime is already capped to about 3 generations.
mircea_popescu: one excellent case study of how bitcoin is irretrievably destroying the socialist paradigm.
mircea_popescu: but certainly the passing down would be one way to do it, and that's why inheritance is taxed to fuck.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller sure you can.
mircea_popescu: but if you get even close to that barrier it's like superficial tension in a water dropplet al oof a sudden
mircea_popescu: the only thingthat's not ok is to get out of the poor into the rich. everytjhing else is fine,
mircea_popescu: benkay have you considered how taxation works in the us for instance ?
mircea_popescu: which is why all the anti-getting ahead stuff.
mircea_popescu: of course the socialistoid governments of the uncivilised world would very much prefer a population of poor only.
mircea_popescu: so if you're abny good at it eventually you should accumulate enough wealth to not be poor.
mircea_popescu: benkay no. because if shit hits the fan they're sol.
mircea_popescu: who is proposing such a thing ?
mircea_popescu: benkay yes.
mircea_popescu: 11ty billion.
mircea_popescu: or w/e average is these days.
mircea_popescu: if you make 50k a year in rents and interests you're not poor.
mircea_popescu: the poor is any one individual that does not own enough real property or capital to produce one average wage out of its use alone.
mircea_popescu: to the detriment of all, and especially the poor.
mircea_popescu: benkay nah. friction is bleeding money off productive uses into the toilet.
mircea_popescu: or golf club or we
mircea_popescu: just like a good baseball bat is one that doesn't lower the batter's average.
mircea_popescu: once you've read that my definition will make more sense. it is "a good currency is one that doesn't introduce friction for capital allocation"
mircea_popescu: (also links to a good other article)
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/
mircea_popescu: toffoo what you thought i was making shit up ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder exactly.
mircea_popescu: bgupta you seen the too much money article ?
mircea_popescu: basically.
mircea_popescu: at least that's how soldiers got to be called soldiers in the first placer.
mircea_popescu: it's paying for the military.
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> taxes are the purpose of a currency <<< actually if we go by historicval recorxd
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: this certainly.
mircea_popescu: that'll resolve itself soon enough, and then there's the rest of eternity to bitcoin back and forth
mircea_popescu: now all that aside : currenlt bitcoin is not workable as a token to buy eggs because a large number of idiots mistakenly refuse to recognise its value.
mircea_popescu: but then to reduce that to such a narrow use seems fallacious.
mircea_popescu: i mean saying its purpose is to measure commerce / act as medium of exchange etc is one thing
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "what is the purpose of a car! to drive on new jersey turnpike!"
mircea_popescu: eggs and bread are not the test case of currency.
mircea_popescu: bgupta i think you're confusing yourself.
mircea_popescu: "=PriceMPEX("O.USD.C031T","S")"
mircea_popescu: jasmine tea is like the worst.
mircea_popescu: also if you use diarhea as a standard
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: what nuttery is this ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is "a bad currency"
mircea_popescu: and ciompletely out of control
mircea_popescu: so basically because the usd is an inflationary piece of shit
mircea_popescu: he's certainly the one bitcoiner most likely to go shoot up a school or some shit
mircea_popescu: this lukejr talk about killing is worrisome
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164550 heh.
mircea_popescu: <dub> the funny here is that Luke-Jr invested in DMC <<<
mircea_popescu: bgupta orly , forbes knows =shiot now.