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mircea_popescu: mjr_ amuysingly, people are still proposibng that bitcoin financials be handled by "colored coins:"
mircea_popescu: let's get back to what the blaze does well, cause btc not rly : http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/man-who-gave-birth-to-three-babies-unsuccessfully-begs-for-a-divorce-in-this-odd-legal-conundrum/
mircea_popescu: seems italy is balancing its budget roman empire style.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: Italian police have seized a record (EURO)1.3 billion ($1.7 billion) in cash and property from a single person, a Sicilian alternative energy entrepreneur alleged to have close ties to the Mafia.
mircea_popescu: that thinfg is becoming a study in creative ways to fail
mircea_popescu: 500 - Internal server error - Bitcoin Charts
mircea_popescu: bgupta fucking fate of doom, trying to protect bitcoin from attacks.
mircea_popescu: actually, go trade ltc.
mircea_popescu: so why bother with bitcouin, if you wanna pyramid go trade moonrocks.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: bgupta you think it hasn't so far ?
mircea_popescu: they could go resel tulips
mircea_popescu: it doesn't need to be bitcoin for that purpose
mircea_popescu: it could have been a fucking vase.
mircea_popescu: if all they do with their bitcoin is try and resell it ...
mircea_popescu: and this is why the entire adoption thing is so important.
mircea_popescu: it's 1mn worth of bitcoin fiat value.
mircea_popescu: it's not 1mn worth of bitcoin economy.
mircea_popescu: but they'll live.
mircea_popescu: people with a clue priced out of the market by the lemming mania isn't quite as great,
mircea_popescu: now that aside, higher mkt cap is great, sure.
mircea_popescu: there is no point discussing events and externalities and whatever else. fuck them over, it will.
mircea_popescu: this will fuck them over.
mircea_popescu: that's not the point tho. the point is that people are buyingsomething they can't afford and haven't researched on the unfounded hope that it will "go up more".
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: it is not that.
mircea_popescu: hoping they've finally found the way out of the hole.
mircea_popescu: this is just a bunch of poor and desperate people who are unemployed and stuck with their computer in a barely furnished apartment
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: whereas there's much larger ones painting a diff picture.
mircea_popescu: i understand what you're saying but i think you're focusing on relatively small signals
mircea_popescu: the market cap hasn't been the limiting factor since mid feb.
mircea_popescu: that has nothing to do with financial speculation.
mircea_popescu: economies of scale are a property of production
mircea_popescu: mtgox ?
mircea_popescu: so then what have you adopted ?
mircea_popescu: arguably.
mircea_popescu: money changing hands does not necessarily reflect any sort of adoption
mircea_popescu: by that logic every time i pay a waitress i'm getting married
mircea_popescu: that's too loose for this convo i think
mircea_popescu: and retarded trend followers are NOT speculators.
mircea_popescu: speculators are not adopters.
mircea_popescu: nor should they.
mircea_popescu: but they don't have to all do it right nao
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: you know what i mean.
mircea_popescu: on what, coinbase ? :D
mircea_popescu: no you can't.
mircea_popescu: except not how things work irl.
mircea_popescu: if he chose to.
mircea_popescu: mjr_ yeah. and every single guy could get a hot girl
mircea_popescu: notrly
mircea_popescu: the reddit crowd of 50k people with 50 bux each is irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: all it takes is telling the few dozen people with money to stfu already.
mircea_popescu: mjr_ it's not really that huge.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: well... it won't work.
mircea_popescu: thus a classical bubble.
mircea_popescu: demand is fueled by price increase expectation.
mircea_popescu: so basicvally... any dollar over 100 anyone pays on a btc is a dollar lost.
mircea_popescu: it won't happen over 100.
mircea_popescu: and when they finally panic they'll expect actual players to buy from them.
mircea_popescu: in that a bunch of noobs / "daytraders" in their own mind are cycling the same btc among each other at the exchanges
mircea_popescu: this is a very dangerous non=participatory run-up by now
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the problem is they kinda don't want to.
mircea_popescu: haha what a turn lol
mircea_popescu: would rather eat paper there than get out.
mircea_popescu: jurov americans are insane about their little country.
mircea_popescu: the bid/ask volumes tho... lol
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinity.org/markets
mircea_popescu: running up again eh ? silly peoples.
mircea_popescu: depends. last month i think they did yea
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 only the options :p
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress very much so.
mircea_popescu: bgupta yes
mircea_popescu: ?
mircea_popescu: and b. if you do do it i will insulate you from market downturn
mircea_popescu: a. i am your regulator, if you don't i'll fuck you with my nonsensical regulations
mircea_popescu: mjr_ what if i tell you that
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^ check it out lol
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress nasty shit.
mircea_popescu: cause ... why, right ?
mircea_popescu: now the dems don't want to sell their own houses wives and daughters to pay for it
mircea_popescu: "lend to black people no matter what"
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress ok but it creatges this pernicious "listen to us and we'll insulate you ferom marketplace effects". it's how clinton destroyed the us banking sector
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress draw ? how is it a draw ?!
mircea_popescu: (and gavin paid him iirc anyway - moar central planning nonsense()
mircea_popescu: ChaangNoi doesn't change much in the equation
mircea_popescu: mjr_ i don't think they had a choice tbh.
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't change what things are yet.
mircea_popescu: obviously as market matures, idiots get pushed out, more money more competence etc stuff will improve.
mircea_popescu: mjr_ perhaps.
mircea_popescu: bgupta except there's no really distinct ones.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of weakness baked in at all junctures.
mircea_popescu: everyone uses a pool because that's what you do
mircea_popescu: except nobody chooses to use a pool
mircea_popescu: it was two doods.
mircea_popescu: and it wasn't even the miners