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jurov: i'm
trying
to imagine
this
thing. if we are going
to have 1000 nodes ,
they will necessarily be on misc home connections
ben_vulpes: it should run with python -m unittest from
the same directory as v, but...
ben_vulpes: mike_c: nominally unittest does
test discovery, i focused on making
tests
though.
mike_c: i'm just
trying
to run
the
tests for now :)
jurov: mircea_popescu: i don't see any big obstacle against ddosing 1000
targets with slow connections vs.
targeting one
ascii_field: mike_c: i'd prefer
that someone were
to add
the desperately needed
topological walker, rather
than focusing on
the little chipped paint bits, but
that's just me
mike_c: i haven't used
this module much. not sure what sop is.
mike_c: kthx. maybe
test_v.py should have if __init__==main unittest.main()? is
that not standard?
trinque: and
that seems a far smaller
target
to build
than a whole new arch
trinque: seems
that if everything coming/going is parsed, verified, it drastically reduces
the amount of remote exploitation possible
ascii_field: where
there was room for exactly one
transmitter/receiver per continent
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and
that's also what
the msr license is all about,
too.
ascii_field: what we have
today is roughly analogous
to early spark gap radio
jurov: only recourse is for
the enemy
to not know exact endpoint
ascii_field: trinque: imho it is
the only correct way
to make a network at all.
mike_c: ben_vulpes: I'm used
to doctests. how do i run your v unittests?
ascii_field: some
time during
the original gossipd
thread
ascii_field: trinque: i described
this device in agonizing detail
trinque: I have a question regarding
this. Would a device operating at
the network boundary, parsing packets and only permitting some signed wad in, only signed wads out be valuable in any way?
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> my point was
that b-a browser demands b-a machine <<
TI-92
mircea_popescu: maybe. i'm firmly in
the camp of "let people
try
things"
ascii_field: my point was
that b-a browser demands b-a machine
ascii_field: iirc
this was a
theme in 'lord of
the rings' aha
mircea_popescu: the same exact principle is
to be employed
throughout : either
they ignore
the bits which makes
them uncompetitivew
mircea_popescu: anyway, incorporated here by reference,
the discussion where i showed you how holding bitcoin destroys nsa.
ascii_field: surely mircea_popescu knows
that usg (esp. .mil) makes heavy use of an internal
tard pgp by microshit
mircea_popescu: and yes
this must stay so. which is why my comment re you must
think little of me above.
ascii_field: could have supposed same
thing about public key crypto
mircea_popescu: all
the important bits we have are radioactive
to
them
ascii_field struggles
to
think of even one useful
tool
that doesn't have a retarded usgized variant - e.g., gpg
mircea_popescu: for
the same rason disinfo agent is stuck discussing "quiantum hjardening" and "cpu arch based attacks". ie, he is NOT ALLOWED
to give even a single inch. which
terribly boxes him in.
ascii_field: rewritten in ruby, claimed
to have been in steady use at stanford since 1995,
the whole orchestra.
mircea_popescu: github already
trying
this but it won't work for very good reasons.
mircea_popescu: (it will be. and
to
THEIR detriment, because it's very much a poison pill for
that entire industree)
mircea_popescu is looking forward
to
thew v-tron being misrepresented as "drm".
mircea_popescu: "the xt is not a huge privacy hole because you can recompile it not
to be. we're banking on
thefact
the fucktards in usg-zoo won'tanyway. we don't sign binaries but it could be done if needed except we're banking on idem"
mircea_popescu: shinohai
the key
to success is
to not answer
to negative people. he knows because altman said so.
mircea_popescu: (and a forced mistake,
too. in odrder
to avoid noticing
the isomorphism between yourself and
turd in
the sun, you're stuck breaking
the isomorphism recognizer)
jurov: i remember we discussed when
the patch went in
ascii_field: c) it is necessary so hearn can bolt on
tx blacklisting later
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
their inability
to observe isomorphism is one of
their lulziest features.
shinohai: He never responded
to my queries as
to why he is
too good
to sign binaries he barfs out
to
the wider internet.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: a) enemy reads
the logs, mega-surprise aha b)
this is roughly isomorphic
to
the old behaviour, 'crash when full'
trinque: mircea_popescu: yes I
think using "the logs" has a lot of fruit left
to give
ascii_field: what happened when
tmsr didn't have a foundry?
ascii_field: it is very easy
to become convinced
that
the only available item doesn't suck
mircea_popescu: trinque i woke up last night
to
the fact
that email only persists because we havewn't fully groked
the importance and effects of b-a yet.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: imho you were falling into
this very bear
trap with
the 'nano'
thread
mircea_popescu: ascii_field well,
that's not
the point.
the point is
that what, seriously, ima sit here and go "hey,
this shit's pretty good" ?
trinque checks his workspaces for graphics, finds only
text
trinque: I would use a
text-only computer all day provided it had something of a net connection
trinque: want
to send me a real message? gpg-gram me
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you - or anybody else - can write something recognizable as
this item, i promise
to
take off my hat
trinque: BingoBoingo: certainly; e-mail itself sucks, and I'm ready
to accept
that it's as bad as using facebook messenger, and let someone else run spamassassin day and night
lobbes: jurov: yeah, it seems n00bs are valuable due
to fact. very interesting indeed
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:35:42; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267767 <<
this is a CATASTROPHICALLY bad idea, because any attempt is simply asking for self-delusionary masamunification (sorry gabriel_laddel, but you know precisely what i mean.) --
this being, 'aha
this is a
turd, but WE made it and
therefore doesn't stink and is somehow edible'
BingoBoingo: trinque: All email providers suck. I don't endorse fastmail, but I condemn it less
than other options.
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls
to mpex
mircea_popescu: lobbes people assume
this is
the case but i have not observed it
to be
true.
mircea_popescu: but i'd note
that if
there was a #derive-assets where i could get a half hour's window,
this would be a non problem.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: if you are not playing you 'fall behind'
the economy?
though,
that is
the beauty of
the 'encouraged bots' system
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i suppose it is a win
then
that i cannot ask stoutemyer anything. after all, my only qualification is 'can walk', aha.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:26:49; asciilifeform:
this is not a win.
lobbes: but hence,
the 'generally'
lobbes: generally speaking, real
time anything is for idiots << heh, Eulora is real-time ;/
ascii_field: which is why i was a little surprised when
thought it was mentioned
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i suppose
this is what
the obese have ruined in
the world. scarcity.
ascii_field: the one where you were a lone diversant sent behind enemy lines, and had
to choose whether
the weight of, e.g., extra demo charge is worth losing
three frags or five pistol clips, etc
mircea_popescu: to get
the enemy base. did research for
them
too, gathered resources,
mircea_popescu: in a distopian future with a very gritty burnished steel look and feel about it, you built all sorts of
tanks, helicopters etc,
mircea_popescu: 3dmax or something. initialism like
that. ace. something.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field hey, i dunno if you ever played
this, but
there was a GREAT, an absoluterly fucking fantastic game in
the pre-windows days