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mircea_popescu: niot really.
mircea_popescu: this is how force works, fundamentally.
mircea_popescu: in fact, there's rarely not a majority available.
mircea_popescu: than admit they're eating shit.
mircea_popescu: there's never a shortage of people who, if forced to eat shit by the spoon, would rather claim this savarine is wonderful
mircea_popescu: jurov practically speaking, because the world is mostly made out of Chaaang-Nois.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty grand.
mircea_popescu: "An analysis of Iksil's trades revealed that he was using Microsoft Excel excessively, making a number of formula errors that caused him to underestimate the risks of his positions."
mircea_popescu: this is already the case.
mircea_popescu: jurov he obviously means the fake gold nobody wants anymore.
mircea_popescu: "what'as the worst that can happen, inflation ? that measn the economy has resuscitated, win"
mircea_popescu: exactly. the fed is hungry and stupid. it goes "so we make 2% on 10trn which is 200bn and if we print another 10trn we make 400 bn instead ? go for it!"
mircea_popescu: and as a result fucking up the body.
mircea_popescu: they are there working dilligently at a bad definition of what the job is.
mircea_popescu: understand, cancerous cells aren't there conspiring to fuck up the body.
mircea_popescu: because the system is broken.
mircea_popescu: the fed simply makes money on the bonds they buy.
mircea_popescu: neither of these is the point.
mircea_popescu: jurov pretty much. mostly us stocks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why i didn't consider it originally. but on a purely semantic basis it has to be pointed out.
mircea_popescu: well... yeah, maybe in 1820 or something.
mircea_popescu: the us economy was never this weak. not in 1950, not in 1939, never.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the indexes are up is proof.
mircea_popescu: yeah, jurov : you can watch the stock exchange.
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: exacrtly.
mircea_popescu: a a. yes.
mircea_popescu: what about it ?
mircea_popescu: this is pretty good.
mircea_popescu: http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/05/the-washington-super-whale-hedge-fundies-the-federal-reserve-and-bernanke-hatred.html
mircea_popescu: mjr___ here you signup lol
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ kinda that summer.
mircea_popescu: it's about the investors.
mircea_popescu: being listed is not about asicminer's monwey.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea wtf you're on about nao.
mircea_popescu: why would i have to buy anything ?!
mircea_popescu: BitHub the friedcat guy won't sign contracts basically.
mircea_popescu: everybody else gets rice and beans
mircea_popescu: give yourself time.
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi doesn't like to read.
mircea_popescu: forget lol
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: i plan ahead.
mircea_popescu: the fiorst edition was actually planned/invites sent in jan/feb.
mircea_popescu: o ya i guess Ukto idles alot so he might miss it. ^
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: only people who weren't there at the 1st one lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform burnside coingenuity davout DBordello Diablo-D3 dub FabianB_ imsaguy jborkl jcpham kakobrekla leotreasure mod6 nanotube pgp rdponticelli smickles_ ThickAsThieves thestrin1puller topace_ and everyone else ^
mircea_popescu: and now for my spamlist!
mircea_popescu: ok, here goes : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-conference-second-edition/
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: i have serious doubts that's happening again. ideally it won't need to.
mircea_popescu: or mining pools being willing to lose money.
mircea_popescu: on the recent fork it proved itself to work quite well.
mircea_popescu: there is however a messaging system build into most clients, to notify merchants if there's a split etc.
mircea_popescu: in fact, most aren't.
mircea_popescu: even so. not all problems are approachable in code.
mircea_popescu: it's a moneybags issue, and who's to say they don't have a plan ?
mircea_popescu: it's not a software issue.
mircea_popescu: the drop from 260 to 100 was certainly an investment. people lost money in order to prove bitcoin is not a pump asnd dump.
mircea_popescu: well, you can see panic as an investment
mircea_popescu: i don't see what's nasty about it.
mircea_popescu: ie selling both or buying both doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: or that yes, but that's neutral for our model
mircea_popescu: price will then diverge towards one chain closing in to 100% of the total.
mircea_popescu: people with weight will just pick, sell the loser buy the winner
mircea_popescu: not necessarioly an even split is what i mean.
mircea_popescu: which means everyone has 2x as many btc as he used to have : half on each fork
mircea_popescu: if the chain splits there's basically two distinct histories
mircea_popescu: chains are just that, sequences of blocks, which are made up of txs
mircea_popescu: i think you do.
mircea_popescu: KRS1 im not sure how you mean ?
mircea_popescu: as a result prices will rapidly diverge, panicking the mass of users, and the fork is economically resolved.
mircea_popescu: he will sell his btc on one and perhaps buy on the other.
mircea_popescu: since fork means btc can be spent independently on either chain
mircea_popescu: whoever has enough money to matter is likely to pick one chain for whatever reason
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the model is something like this :
mircea_popescu: you're more resilient than him because you have no backbone, but that doesn't amount to much.
mircea_popescu: gigavps is dead.
mircea_popescu: and will end in bitchslapping. universally.
mircea_popescu: back to the matter at hand : pumping is a bad idea. universally.
mircea_popescu: which is why only new people give a shit what you think.
mircea_popescu: sure, you tend to think whatever's convenient at the moment,
mircea_popescu: and quite frankly i dislike that particular outlook because it's just bad for business, and for bitcoin in general.
mircea_popescu: not everybody is desperately trying to turn their fifty bucks into a million.
mircea_popescu: they're not cognates.
mircea_popescu: that's the whole story. stop confounding your hopes for the future with the history of the world,
mircea_popescu: they were both started about the same time (april 2012)
mircea_popescu: asicminer is a. never got that much invested ; b. never got that much traded in its lifetime history ; c. barely paid 10% of that in dividends so far.
mircea_popescu: look. s.dice has maid and paid ~70k btc so far.
mircea_popescu: sigh.
mircea_popescu: it is not, and it's not even close, at all.
mircea_popescu: Chaaang-Noi you claimed coupla days ago that am is going to pay more div than s.dice
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe so. this discussion is not about the future however.
mircea_popescu: he however only blows it the direction that favours his bias.
mircea_popescu: the funny thing with Chaaang-Noi is that math illiterate people are equally likely to blow a degree of magnitude either direction
mircea_popescu: i did the math, turns out he's a degree of magnitude off, as per usual
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe it will. he was arguing really strongly that am is a contender two days ago.
mircea_popescu: that's 10x what it's doing now, for 4 weeks straight.
mircea_popescu: you need to hit 0.012 for 4 weeks straigjht to equal s.dice