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mircea_popescu: chery#select][this sorta thing] that gets you bloody.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to belabour the point : the difference between us, dictated by experience and high level understanding as it may be, nevertheless comes in simple droplets. where i choose to let sql handle its own date format and use proper numeric notation for time, you attempt to convey string dates across boundries. it's [http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/?b=Old%20age&e=trea
lobbes: well, current saltmine (doing reporting) not only doesn't have awk, nor bash, but is on winblows (no surprise) and no administrative rights to do anything useful on computer). It is comical really. The amount they spend in time/money to do things that could be done with a 5 minute bash/awk (which again, just goes to show that in Incan lands it isn't about actually doing, just looking like doing)
ossabot: Logged on 2018-12-04 10:15:46 mircea_popescu: lamp was, in strict historical terms, the ~only~ linux success.
mircea_popescu: not even a bad idea, i'd say it's the core that carried the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-12-04#1878244 thing
mircea_popescu: at any rate transparently what php set out to be back in 1990s, "what if we had a web-awk???".
lobbes really does need to learn bash and awk already, in any case
lobbes: well I'm glad you think that of sql; I've never known if I could count it as a 'programming' language
lobbes: that may be part of it haha. The more I do learn, the more I realize that I don't like it enough to ~want~ to be in front of a computer all day
mircea_popescu: in fairness, sql is as much a programming language as any of them. bash, too.
mircea_popescu: from what i've seen, most people decide they don't really like computers once they get to know them at all.
lobbes: and even then, it has always been 'soft computering' like reporting, sql queries, excel jockying, etc. The only programming language I really know is python (and that I've only ever used here in tmsr)
lobbes: I mean, I make my living doing it in Incan lands, sure. But the bar is much lower in those lands
mircea_popescu: i thought computering was your chosen profession ?
lobbes: idk, I've got some thinking to do
lobbes: though tbh, this whole experience makes me think that maybe computers just ain't my thing. Perhaps I ought to think about BingoBoingo's writing for Qntra course a little more instead of this TMSR OS project
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
mircea_popescu: moreover, a weekend-ish project that didn't complete in three momths ain't gonna complete in a coupla days.
lobbes: I'll keep combing it for bugs in the meantime, what can you do. Gives me time to make sure there will be no issues on prod server either I suppose
lobbes: mircea_popescu: I hear you on that. Welp, I failed this one
mircea_popescu: i'll be back in settled circumstances willing and able to do such things sometime early next year.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, no but think about it, even if i add the dump now, it'll be 20+ hours until it ~completes~. i'd like to you know, have more than a day after that if a problem crops up. it's just not feasible anymoar.
lobbes: otherwise, for the foreseeable future I will be available whenever you are to look at this (save for the last week of December)
lobbes: mircea_popescu: well, what are you looking at for hours left? I can try and get this to you in the next say 5 hours
mircea_popescu: so im guessing having failed to make it run in this window we'll look at it again when i'm back ?
mircea_popescu: ftr, today's the 5th, just started ; and it's also the absolute last day i can possibly receive this thing. after that, ima be on the road for a while.
lobbes: weird huh. Possibly I was just implementing it wrong; I haven't looked too much into it tbh. Though I did find a workaround (instead of "<" operator, simply a "<>". I ultimately just need to tell if the days have changed from one line to the next, so that works); re-running my archives into my testblog now. Then I'll be going through with a veeeyyry fine toothed comb
mircea_popescu: >>> two="01 Apr 2016"
mircea_popescu: wtf, that's a spectacular bug. python ftw.
lobbes: in any case, fixing now (there was also an issue with some of the bot lines being out-of-order, which will also be fixed).
lobbes: well I found the source of the conflated months weird. For whatever reason, the date compare for python fails when it is comparing formatted dates across months... i.e. "31 Mar 2016 < 01 Apr 2016" evaluates to ~false~, yet "30 Mar 2016 < 31 Mar 2016" evaluates to true like it should
lobbes just finished saltmines bs and is about to start cutting that dump now.
mircea_popescu: here's to hoping he shows up, im bored enough i'm here going through trilema logs and shit
deedbot: 2019/12/04 06:03:55 <lobbes> mircea_popescu: seeing as these were fence post errors, I'm going to get some sleep and cut this again with a fresh head. I'll get that dump to you tomorrow (with just the fix to the months)
mircea_popescu: i suppose it tries to put an a href inside an a href huh.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-04#1954303 << also apparently there's a bug in the brackets-to-html convertor.
mircea_popescu: wtf they teach xtian masters of science in oklahoma is anyone's guess by this point.
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/0A7Q5 << Meanwhile in ongoing flailing during the 4 month transition, Special Senate session to force through some shit!
BingoBoingo: Down here I've seen more of the latter. Then again "porch piracy" is not a concern here while it's endemic in old country.
hanbot: priority post, right, where your priorities ain't theirs.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-04 10:07:40 BingoBoingo: Who would have thought the English would be the ones to sloppily fail to repack things being shipped.
hanbot: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-04#1954294 << eh it's ~always the "civilized" folks doing the stupidity-via-disrespect; i had a camera shipped to cr a while back amidst worries the locals would fuck it somehow, but it was the US side that stole it. the other half of the snailmail racket just delivers stupidity-via-formalisation, almost a kind of too much respect for the items in question, zero respect for the agents involved.
BingoBoingo: Should be quite some time before the kid runs out of bubble wrap to pop.
diana_coman: well, tbh I saw way worse from others ie not-packing-at-all, literally left as an overflowing mess; it's still funny though, certainly.
BingoBoingo: Who would have thought the English would be the ones to sloppily fail to repack things being shipped.
diana_coman: they half-heartedly shove it all back in again ie they didn't steal anything but didn't really pack it either; one of the drive bays' clamp was sticking out of the box even; I took some pics for the lolz but not sure when/if I get around to publish them.
BingoBoingo: Did they fail to replace the bubble wrap or steal the foam padding?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: found them (ie 1 bag), yes; on the other side, even the corner of the metal case is bent, lolz.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty for letting me know. Have you found the misc screws and pull loops for the rails tucked into the leftmost drive bay?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo_: the server finally arrived (and rather surprisingly, since the tracking page had no mention of any delivery date even this morning), thank you; it's been thoroughly pawed and decorated with "border force" tape but they can't hold a candle to you when it comes to packing, clearly.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: seeing as these were fence post errors, I'm going to get some sleep and cut this again with a fresh head. I'll get that dump to you tomorrow (with just the fix to the months)
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-alleged-crisis-of-the-supposed-engineering-or-mistaken-identities-pantomiming-a-comedy-of-manners/ << Trilema -- The alleged crisis of the supposed engineering, or mistaken identities pantomiming a comedy of manners.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/what-the-fuck-is-this-then/ << Trilema -- What the fuck is this, then ?!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-tmsr-os-implicit-clients/ << Trilema -- The TMSR-OS implicit clients
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-27-mar-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 27 Mar 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-26-mar-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 26 Mar 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-16-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 16 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-15-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 15 Apr 2016
lobbes: but will fix this
lobbes: I would also hate that, no need to worry
mircea_popescu: i would FUCKING HATE IT if this is what i do for the coming years, find and fix lobbeslog bugs.
mircea_popescu is now somewhat petrified by the process, seeing how the first 2-3 errors were found on the spot, the 4th only once a few articles were in, and this last one only after a month was in.
mircea_popescu: aite, im stopping this. restate your thing properly! by which i mean, fix this one thing ; don't fix the rest of the issues, i've as you've seen meanwhile written bash around it.
lobbes: goddamn it. yes those fencing errors. I'll need to keep a better eye on that going forward
mircea_popescu: yup, march 2017 ALSo starts on the 2nd.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-14-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 14 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-13-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 13 Apr 2016
lobbes: mircea_popescu: oh ffs, I think I did
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-12-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 12 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-11-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 11 Apr 2016
mircea_popescu: fencing errors will be the death of you my good man.
mircea_popescu: please tell me you didn't do this systematically for EVERY month, whereby they all start on 2nd ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes, look here : http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-31-Mar-2016/#2069891 ; you conflated march 31st and april 1st ; your first day in april is thereby april 2nd/.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-04-02 00:26:08 deedbot-: [Daniel P. Barron] Count me as thick, I dun see the connection. - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/count-me-as-thick-i-dun-see-the-connection/
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-10-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 10 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-09-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 09 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-08-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 08 Apr 2016
lobbes: mircea_popescu: that is odd about apr 1st being missing. There were logs that day: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2016-04-01
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-07-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 07 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-06-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 06 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-05-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 05 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-04-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 04 Apr 2016
mircea_popescu: but yes, a large chunk of the job is now done!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-03-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 03 Apr 2016
mircea_popescu: lobbes, was there no april 1st ?!
lobbes: they're looking good so far. ah this is nice to see
mircea_popescu: with apologies to anyone who perhaps had business to transact today, #trilema is undergoing the second (and forevermore last) festival of log recuperation ; should be done in about twenty hours.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-02-Apr-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 02 Apr 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-31-Mar-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 31 Mar 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-30-Mar-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 30 Mar 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-29-Mar-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 29 Mar 2016
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-28-Mar-2016/ << Trilema -- Forum logs for 28 Mar 2016
mircea_popescu: well, ~under~ the toolbars on trilema ; but fwis on most other blogs it ends up on top.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: nice. sorry for all the gyrations
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-30-Mar-2016/#2068497 << this is example of why the breakout td btw. without that magic word, the line'd just push everything to the right over the toolbars.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, i think it's good now, finally!
mircea_popescu: i suspect there might be a further issue with date formats there tho.
mircea_popescu: the problem with multiple posts on the same exact second is that mpwp sorts them incorrectly. (like feedbot, gets them in reverse order).
mircea_popescu: what i ~meant~ was, by-reference-to-bash-script published, "take ~TIMECNT~ to be so and so".
mircea_popescu: lobbes, well, in the process of fixing, should have something presently.