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mircea_popescu: joesmoe you misspelled schmoe!
mircea_popescu: yea
mircea_popescu: dexX7 the volatility part is true but also very problematic in btc
mircea_popescu: well... like any garage sale, people like the crap buckets.
mircea_popescu: actually you should probably have 3 : i. large ; 2. small ; 3. scam (or w/e, politely named, "no income yet")
mircea_popescu: but anyway, here are your problems : put am, mpex (and used to be sdice) in there, you've got 2 mn+ btc wiping everyone else into irrelevance. you don't put any of them well... it's weird parade. (which is wjhy i suggested making two categories)
mircea_popescu: zee germanz...
mircea_popescu: dax is an index now ?!
mircea_popescu: yes, it's a compromise, but what are you compromising and on what basis ?
mircea_popescu: they are what they are.
mircea_popescu: smidge you can't arbitrarily cap things out, it makes no sense.
mircea_popescu: BigBitz tis what the mkt says what can i tell you.
mircea_popescu: asicminer is like 1.2mn you know.
mircea_popescu: lol what is this, smallcap index ?
mircea_popescu: bitbet would be about 6200 btc on the month avg
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
mircea_popescu: smidge yup.
mircea_popescu: smidge s.mpoe mkt cap is about 800k btc.
mircea_popescu: huh ?
mircea_popescu: i think maybe in the 90s irc was bigger in europe than in the states
mircea_popescu: minus, i took a break from irc for a good two decades
mircea_popescu: bout same
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: smidge how old are you ?
mircea_popescu: ipos should come with shoe on head.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: it'd seem to me this is an explanation not a hand-weaving.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd was decided on "whether it trades or doesn't trade" not on whether it's 0 or isn't 0.
mircea_popescu: a. refunds aren't terribly likely, thatg's for sure.
mircea_popescu: the 1% theory is also weak, as the site charges the same total no matter who wins.
mircea_popescu: but i think the drama theory is weak. seems going the other way would have generated more.
mircea_popescu: well, as a matter of fact i can't see such a contradiction.
mircea_popescu: it's not trading. so 0.
mircea_popescu: the problem is the word trading.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the text : "S.DICE on MPEx will trade at or below .0016 BTC before October 2013."
mircea_popescu: this is... um... .2 btc total.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/481/s-dice-to-hit-0016-or-below-before-october/ < ?!
mircea_popescu: i thought you meant that 1
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/
mircea_popescu: right. so anything is higher than 0, so there yo uhave it.
mircea_popescu: well the idea is that undefined variables are nil. if there's no X trading on Y, the correct value for X on Y is 0.
mircea_popescu: s.dice used to be the bitcoin dice site, but seems justdice stole that crown
mircea_popescu: looky : s.mpoe is the bitcoin stock exchange. bitbet is the bitcoin betting site.
mircea_popescu: dandate2 how do they look the same ?!
mircea_popescu: frb i don't think he was looking for an apology.
mircea_popescu: dandate2 well tyou could read the contracts no ?
mircea_popescu: or the bitfury bet
mircea_popescu: frb that's often the case actually. like with the josh-zerlan.com bet
mircea_popescu: actually 6 months ago sdice closure was completely off the books.
mircea_popescu: well if it makes you feel better i didn't have a bet in there.
mircea_popescu: which issue do you mean ? on bitbet ?!
mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: i love being unambiguous.
mircea_popescu: i tend to avoid lengthy faqs etc for this reason.
mircea_popescu: problem is people don't like to read.
mircea_popescu: and yes. bitcoin is what it is. you either trust or watch.
mircea_popescu: well if it's not clear i'm glad you asked :)
mircea_popescu: i mean people made a lot of hay about bfl delivery in may bet, but... bfl STILL hasn't delivered so.
mircea_popescu: well, the people resolving the bets are not betting. i occasionalyl make bets, but i don't think theres to date been an actually contentious one.
mircea_popescu: in principle it could split 101/102 or some shit, as unlikely as that may be. in which case 101 would go to proposer. but in no case wil lproposer be assigned more than half the house bet.
mircea_popescu: sometimes it splits 5/6 in which case 5 goes to the proposer
mircea_popescu: Neil_ ah, yes, that's correct.
mircea_popescu: take last month : 19 betsa accepted, 2.02 btc bet.
mircea_popescu: per bet i mean
mircea_popescu: house bets is always .1 or more.
mircea_popescu: if the bet is even the person makes about half, roughly.
mircea_popescu: if the bet is a crapshot, the person usually makes nothing but sometimes makes a bunch.
mircea_popescu: it's simple. whenever someone makes a bet, the house splits a dime among yes/no ands puts the lower ammt on the name of the person that proposed the bet.
mircea_popescu: if you expect to lose 0% they're always -ev
mircea_popescu: they're not +ev except in the perspective where you expect to lose 50%.
mircea_popescu: in general house makes about 50% back of what it bets.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: Neil_ nowhere. atm it's cheaper to just eat them than account for them tbh
mircea_popescu: at this rate you'll end up on thestringpuller's list.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lol
mircea_popescu: not really any need for the other three reasons
mircea_popescu: "why work if you get shit for free anyway"
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: either way.
mircea_popescu: kidkrypto make it.
mircea_popescu: that's about as far removed from NUDE as it could be ozbot
mircea_popescu: .bait nuderstand
mircea_popescu: i think nuderstand will become a meme
mircea_popescu: lol scrat
mircea_popescu: granted it's only a few btc per cycle they lose, but i imagine a few btc hurt a lot in scamistan.
mircea_popescu: this is like the 7th or 8th cycle of it
mircea_popescu: they push it, then let it be at which point it drops
mircea_popescu: lmao by the look of the trades teh btcgarden people are getting raped.
mircea_popescu: ArcticWolf famous last words, those.
mircea_popescu: dandate2 on the short term the market is a nutty machine
mircea_popescu: actually for some of the tickers, price!=price even
mircea_popescu: price!=value
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: le lol.
mircea_popescu: userioao and you're calling ME a moran ?
mircea_popescu: userioao hatir.
mircea_popescu: it simply decreases liniarly with time
mircea_popescu: do tell ?
mircea_popescu: much like spamming is still going 20 years later in spite of the avg spammer making a loss.