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mircea_popescu: why sell FI stocks, reason #5467554698 : they comply with government regulation.
mircea_popescu: Rulother i used to but freenode decided taking donations is too much of a pain
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla will prolly make assbot talk spam in -trades
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the fbi still does anything over tehre or not really.
mircea_popescu: so i just had a dork try to impersonate me to dc ppls. us ips/us phone numbers.
mircea_popescu: so basically we're back to "why isn't your forum graph linear"
mircea_popescu: you mixed the diffs in the wolfram alpha ? i thought you meant in yoru original formula, and the prev wa formula is it.
mircea_popescu: just because some particular thing you were invested into fails to pass muster does not mean the entire world has been obliterated. simmar down.
mircea_popescu: i don't get why this sort of broken thought process is so attractive to you.
mircea_popescu: a measurement is when you measure it. not when you guess what it might have been by some circumstantial evidence.
mircea_popescu: it reminds me a lot of that character with the bitfury bet.
mircea_popescu: im not even sure whence this delusion of majority on the bunko science camp stems from.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's just "thinking is hard and why bother" rather than "snarky is cool".
mircea_popescu: which is exactly the problem with "washing" data, such as trying to extract temperature records from soil samples.
mircea_popescu: wehen you say things like "if x bombs go off at the samer time" you're displaying exactly the misunderstanding of sampling in question : nobody guarantgees you that second is going to be exactly the second when the bombs go off.
mircea_popescu: lewicki it's a sampling problem. the same problem you eschewed earlier, as i was about to ask you if you know enough math to model the average concentration of gas A in the top tenth of a recipient holding a mixture of A and B where A is 10x as heavy as B.
mircea_popescu: guess what ?! CFC became very bad a thing just as patent on them was expiring.
mircea_popescu: since i'm reading up on this : "In 1928 they improved the synthesis of CFCs and demonstrated their usefulness for such a purpose and their stability and nontoxicity. Kettering patented a refrigerating apparatus to use the gas"
mircea_popescu: so people all over the world could trade their and their friends' carbon with each other.
mircea_popescu: nope. that'd be the strawmaning part of the entire thing i glossed over, but i guess you can add it to appeal to authority and social proofing.
mircea_popescu: dub recall the 50 / 150 year problem ? TomServo picked up on it. you failed to do so.
mircea_popescu: lewicki if you're not working with molecular sciences with me you can go read whatever you wish wherever you wish to read it.
mircea_popescu: you construct appeals to authority and attempts at social proof. i shrug and point at numbers.
mircea_popescu: lewicki well let's start with something basic. what's the atomic mass of a cpc molecule ? (any one, at your choice)
mircea_popescu: lewicki i don't consider the epa an authority in any field.
mircea_popescu: its contents broadly matches my own memory of the entire debacle.
mircea_popescu: same thing being done with lighbulbs currently, god forbid poor africans end up with homebrew industry and do the whole azn thing.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it got 1. everyone to buy a new set of fridges and acs, narrowly avoiding a depression and 2) rube countries that were just edging itno the tehcnology to compete were knocked back off the block.
mircea_popescu: and dense that little, if any, ever made it into the upper atmosphere. In fact, chlorides from wind-driven salt spray are a far larger constituent of atmospheric chlorine than CFCs ever were. Also, over the US where much of the CFCs were being released the amount of UV reaching the ground was decreasing during the same period (as the ozone hole was being fear-mongered).
mircea_popescu: The ozone hole is a naturally occurring result of atmospheric dynamics over Antarctica. Mainly the result of lack of sunlight in winter (remember ozone is made from O2 by UV light). The reason it was worse and has gotten smaller is that the scare was during the eruption of an antarctic volcano that was blasting enormous amounts of chlorine into the upper atmosphere. CFCs had nothing to do with it, being so stable
mircea_popescu: since it was mentioned, in case kids at home are using this to supplant their government-funded-therefore-absent education :
mircea_popescu: use dots rather than lines anyway, and postfix rather than prefix