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diana_coman: they ask what is that and what is the other
mircea_popescu: they ask how babies are made, do they get a story or a demonstration ?
mircea_popescu: the name of it thing is correct however.
diana_coman: an explanation or experience of what the damned thing IS
diana_coman: well, come to think about it: children ask "what is that?" all the time and guess what do they get mainly as answer
mircea_popescu: next thing you know you're either making your firebolt wands vibrate or go out of the mage business.
mircea_popescu: "well... it's not a vibrating wand, it's a firebolt wand" "CONSUMERS HAVE COME TO EXPECT!"
diana_coman: so yes, they love learning, of course
diana_coman: hence they don't like the unfamiliar, full stop
diana_coman: because they already have automated patterns ("learnt") on which they can operate in familiar situations
pete_dushenski: even the established ~concept~ of regicide demonstrates the limited nature of 'control'
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but why wouldn't they ? children love it.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:19:56; ascii_field: pete_dushenski: the subtraction of EVERYTHING that you care about from your life is different from death how?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310905 <<< in that it's called marriage. ☝︎
diana_coman: I'd have though it was much simpler than that mircea_popescu: most people don't like learning.
mircea_popescu: it's often seen as a problem in idiots who imagien they can keep bitcoin at bay by saying (in some magical correct form, i guess) that "i do not agree" or "i am not inviting this devil in my house" or whatever. "that is not how debates work", what have you.
mircea_popescu: but other than this, to continue the prev thread, no, you do not have control, in the sense that there isn't a magical write-protect bit you set or unset at your will and unless you've unset it nothing can ever affect you.
mircea_popescu: it does however understand magic. especially because magic specifically exists as a result of the subconscious' poor grasp of everything.
mircea_popescu: same thing that prevents them anywhere else, obviously. but the subconscious does not really comprehend locks, or rifles, or anything so complex it needs a factory.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as there's no spanish equivalent, what's to keep some dudes from busting into your house and taking all your holes on the kitchen table ?
mircea_popescu: as far as average person is concerned, their safety from being, eg, raped, is built entirely out of their belief in the magical power of a construct like that. it is not meaningful, but magical, in that it projects will and controls "the universe".
mircea_popescu: answer : you do not. which takes us right to the reason most people do not learn a foreign language, or enjoy interacting with people whose language they do not speak.
mircea_popescu: rther unwated inquiry is, of course, "that;s inappropriate". except... how do you say this in spanish.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:17:00; ascii_field: is that you DON'T HAVE CONTROL
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310888 << let me explain something to you. slave had some old bitties over for coffee, recounted the story to me. they wanted to know if she's married or has a man. she said no. i suggested she should have said he died in the war. "what war ?" "you know, the war". and then we joked about how it'd play from there, and eventually it came to me the thing to say to prevent fu ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310877 << eventually i'ma die, and that'll be that. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: 'never step into the same river twice' (tm)
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:13:01; pete_dushenski: there can be no stable hierarchy. anywhere.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:09:03; ascii_field: roman slavery has very little to do with the modern variety.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310863 << strange that this should be possible. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:06:26; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310847 <<< because obviously the team will happily be my personal army and not simply take my gf and point at me laughing
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310853 << you don't understand how for great justice works. they have to be supporting cast in his movie because otherwise it's microracist. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Namworld well, install it, ima make you an account then.
Namworld: jurov, you never talked much about this
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << more like "state promised us that if we smoke the pipe all will be fine. well... pipe is going out and what is this!11" << I refer to this phenomena as Shrem's Bong
Namworld: I don't mind testing the game whenever I have some free time.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:05:20; davout: which conveniently boils down to "we need safe spaces to stop these micro-agressions"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310848 << more like "state promised us that if we smoke the pipe all will be fine. well... pipe is going out and what is this!11" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Namworld how's life been treatin ya ?
mircea_popescu: the proof that reddit is not the problem, i guess. random reddit nobody knows about waiting in the wings, to maybe one day be the reddit derps know about.
Namworld: I got an email. I get it the game development has progressed
Namworld: Ah, didn't even have to auth
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:05:11; pete_dushenski: "To bad there isn’t such a thing as intellectual rugby…I would gladly try to field a team from people I have know, and let Pete do the same, and watch his eagle @ss get stomped into the ground before he could ever gain any altitude."
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 16:44:39; davout: "In my humble opinion: these bots create a false market. They represent institutional greed offering no substantial increase in value per point nor do they offer any noticeable increase in liquidity. I also believe that they will chase your average human customers away, who like us, were trying to get the best price we could while at least trying to offer a better market"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310831 << this is very amusing specifically because of the relation to eulora and its bots. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in the efficacious sense of truth.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 14:08:24; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310745 << i read this piece but do not grasp how it relates to my position on *leaks
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310786 << he, like you, propose that they are not "true" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 14:03:07; asciilifeform: this means a ROOM full of displays if you can swing it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310777 << i probably have the fewest displays in b-a huh ☝︎
assbot: A look back at Sony's iconic VAIO computers | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/20ed3gt )
ascii_field: http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/6/5385716/sony-vaio-iconic-pcs-photo-essay << historical interest re: the series
phf: i had a picturebook, one of the c1 models
ascii_field: i still miss these things.
phf: vaio was the last laptop you could jack into cyberspace with
pete_dushenski: admired the design ? and specs ? yes.
pete_dushenski: never bought. too young. and out of my price range.
ascii_field: but yeah, the ones with the blue battery
pete_dushenski remembers that vintage of vaio for being incredibly spendy
ascii_field: in the wild - can't recall.
ascii_field: or rather the pieces of six or so of'em
ascii_field did not see these
pete_dushenski: when's the last time you say a sony laptop irl ?
pete_dushenski: it's a testament to their branding efforts that sony electronics make me think only of recent james bond movies
ascii_field: (assuming pete_dushenski is thinking of the usual formaldehyde 'smell of new car')
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 21:42:20; mircea_popescu: "we have noticed that if we spray X on Y the purchase of flat screen tvs goes up 15%"
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1311386 << this is sop! since, idk, 1950s ?! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (yes there's a deep reason for the schism, no it has nothing to do with politics. the western church mostly provided laas, the eastern church baas.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: why the church ever caught on in god forsaken wastes such as those inhabited by the ru speaking folk. etc.
mircea_popescu: kinda what the eleusine mysteries for instance tried to provide as a public good.
mircea_popescu: this is principally why women [used to] have an advantage over men. they actually experienced socially mandated death, to their benefit. it was the system which produced usable old bitties of the sort that kept say the jews alive.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 20:05:19; mircea_popescu: completely validated in the majesty of Being. The hero transcends life with its peculiar blind spot and for a moment rises to a glimpse of the source. He beholds the face of the father, understands—and the two are atoned."
mircea_popescu: "we have noticed that if we spray X on Y the purchase of flat screen tvs goes up 15%" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i am kinda expecting to see "behavioural doping" or somesuch. if industrial pollutant is so cheap/abundant it actually creates an ecological problem, it is obviously only a matter of time before the large amts of discrete data (google db, cctv db, etc) are meshed together with substance dictionary to create optimized diets for advertising.
phf: conversation keeps arriving to the same point that the solution to local maximum is death. tlp makes those conclusions in "how to not be a narcissist", but then fails to see how it applies to himself with his own mengel situation. or to quote orr from catch-22 "How can he see he's got flies in his eyes if he's got flies in his eyes?"
thestringpuller: http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=31&art_id=162657&sid=45464435&con_type=3 << hey kidnpping for bitcoin. this channel is good at predicting da-future
ascii_field: aaaaanyway he describes his whole life, but i note him here for featuring the 'sane old generation' of shrinks who did not go along.
ascii_field: 'В подполье можно встретить только крыс' << mega-b00k. 'in the underground one meets only rats.'
BingoBoingo: Or ridden out on the rail by crowds
ascii_field: has mircea_popescu ever read the memoir of general piotr grigorenko ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field obviously, as the people in question die.
ascii_field: actually in usa 'standard of care' is now this.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aha. You assume this is a medical system and not a medium of social control.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no. standard of care is specificallty made to resist this, by the few people that are old enough to not want to soon have to explain it. the standard is "as practiced by reasonable minority"
BingoBoingo: So what if the kids end up fucked in adulthood by a couple months or years of neuroleptic induced hyper-prolactinemia, telling the parents they suck would make the doctor the "uncaring monster" to the rest of the system
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but this isn't what this is. this is a doctor claiming he's being a contemporary rendition of fucking mengele because "the jews and the dogs expected it" << "Standard of care"
ascii_field: sorta what i tried to explain to pete_dushenski earlier today.
mircea_popescu: if that's the choice, waht choice is there ?
ascii_field: (it does not follow that they must eat 5,000 cal/day of them)
ascii_field: a great many folks in this jail have literally no choice but to eat 'big mac' or die.
ascii_field: as, i think, was discussed in old thread,
mircea_popescu: "so then... big macs are bad but hey i gotta eat and this one is not that bad right ?" sure.
ascii_field: just as no individual 'big mac' made the fat fella what he is
ascii_field: none of which, taken individually, are necessarily '~the~ losing move'
ascii_field: becoming mengele's assistant, or tlp, or me - is a product of a long series of 'bad life choices'
ascii_field: this also calls to mind mircea_popescu's article about the fat train riders
ascii_field: point in making the distinction was to divide whom it makes sense to feed to giant squid, and whom - to 'reflash firmware'
mircea_popescu: fine, be a woman over there then.
mircea_popescu: the sort that go "oh wait, i was just ... being a woman"
mircea_popescu: well most of it was dead. they however, you will note, RAPED THE REMAINDER.