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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol i remember ulrich, musta glanced over his name when skimming for recognisables. now i see him
there
too.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:58; pete_dushenski: and after actually reading up a bit on glibc instead of
telling myself "oh
that's nice, alf's done another miraculous
thing, which'd be
the
third
this week, each of which is so miraculous
that idkwtf it is, if it even applies
to anything in my universe", i found
that one of
the glibc maintainers is florian weimar of
http://qntra.net/2015/09/many-network-appliances-leak-master-tls-private-keys-through jurov: no,
the mailinglist has nothing
to do with /v/
mircea_popescu: that may have a lot
to do with
the age of
the mammals.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 20:59:48; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349421 << i've never understood
this rather commonplace criticism of
taleb as being anything other
than "ow my fee-fees hurt.
that's not nice and it's certainly not how we do
things in usistan where being successful and coming from somewhere other
than
the sewers is bad because reasons mkay"
BingoBoingo: Not necessarily. Maybe gargantua in legend was actually cuckolded, and pantagruel's real father was
the Jew boy.
jurov: asciilifeform:
twas just djb citation
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: lol if pantagruel's my boy,
then i'm gargantua ;)
BingoBoingo: No, you're pantagruel in
the bouncy harness pete_dushenski
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 19:53:52; jurov: commits
to, carefully designed semantics for everything
that's labeled "undefined" or "unspecified" or "implementation-defined" in
the C "standard".
pete_dushenski: for some kids,
the existence of bitcoin is still news.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:58; pete_dushenski: and after actually reading up a bit on glibc instead of
telling myself "oh
that's nice, alf's done another miraculous
thing, which'd be
the
third
this week, each of which is so miraculous
that idkwtf it is, if it even applies
to anything in my universe", i found
that one of
the glibc maintainers is florian weimar of
http://qntra.net/2015/09/many-network-appliances-leak-master-tls-private-keys-through assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:24:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me, where's
teh instructions for pressing a
trb ?
pete_dushenski: what do you expect from brits edumacated in
the post-beatings era.
pete_dushenski: 86% of respondents: "No, I have never heard before
that fossil fuels can cool area - it all needs looking at again."
pete_dushenski: from bottom of express uk 'climate' article: "Can we
trust existing climate change predictions based on
this new research?"
pete_dushenski: though 15 minutes of reading was all it
took
to appreciate
the enormity of alf's glibcless netbsd.
pete_dushenski: glanville's and blackstone's commentaries and
treatises are also on
their way from bookstores around
the world.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> is it just me or is
the latest qntra from july 10, 2015 ? << New backup being loaded nao
pete_dushenski: this set of newly delivered readings is just some of
the competition for my
time
that retards my learnings of
trb and related subjects
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me, where's
teh instructions for pressing a
trb ?
☟︎ pete_dushenski unwraps abdy's 'lectures on feudalism', herlihy's 'the history of feudalism', lessing's 'laocoon', and 'the world according
to clarkson'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a
thing is well
taken.
the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad
that i'm bound
to miss important
things, but mostly as
these important
things relate
to
trb development, an area where my only experience was debian
testing and v-verification
this summer
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 09:57:30; mircea_popescu: it's
to date
the largest reply i ever had
to make in an irc conversation, but it is in fact a reply in an irc conversation.
pete_dushenski: e. also,
that glibc is advertised as an 'essential' component of unix osen, but
that it's very much something of a flying spaghetti monster
☟︎ pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "with
the caveat
that as
the reunion of Ys starts approaching
the universe, you're getting closer and closer
to
the nagant ending." << can you expand on
this point ? is it
that being overwhelmed on account of previous complacency and previous failures
to eat
the elephant one bite at a
time, as
those bites appeared, can only lead
to suicide ?
trinque: oh wow,
that's what's actually on qntra.net at
the moment.
trinque: deedbot- knows what date/time it is... did someone
touch
the entropy dial?
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 16:53:56; mircea_popescu: i got more ego
than
taleb damnit.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 16:52:46; asciilifeform:
the man has problems reeling his monster ego even partly onto a spool
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349421 << i've never understood
this rather commonplace criticism of
taleb as being anything other
than "ow my fee-fees hurt.
that's not nice and it's certainly not how we do
things in usistan where being successful and coming from somewhere other
than
the sewers is bad because reasons mkay"
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 16:10:22; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
http://qntra.net/ << older backuped version back online. feel free
to log in as per normal, update it, etc. everything should still work as b4, if not lemme know.
pete_dushenski: looks like
the last 5 months of archives vanished in
the last reboot ?
pete_dushenski: is it just me or is
the latest qntra from july 10, 2015 ?
jurov: commits
to, carefully designed semantics for everything
that's labeled "undefined" or "unspecified" or "implementation-defined" in
the C "standard".
☟︎ jurov: As a boring platform for
the portable parts of boring crypto software, I'd like
to see a free C compiler
that clearly defines, and permanently
jurov: ben_vulpes: do you have publicly available sample outcome of
the glorious process?
☟︎ trinque: sometimes fleanode issues cause
the poor guy
to say
things
to no one but himself.
mircea_popescu: medicine has ~0
to do with all
this (as does democracy).
mircea_popescu: but other
than
that :
the rivers of meat spawn from
the generalized sanitation, and are fed by generalized refrigeration
mircea_popescu: not really medicine. people keep going
to "medicine", but
this is nonsense. for one
thing, medicine is in no better shape
than it was during classical
times, with one major exception :
traumatology. which is what unleashed rivers of black athlete, it's
true.
jurov: in
that line, medicine is really
the 'closing
technology'
that unleashed rivers of meat
jurov: still, if it really was big % of population,
the outcome would look like after wave of pestilence&co, which it did not
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
the crusades
touched pretty much every able bodied male
mircea_popescu: this is exactly counterfactual.
the us is fighting
the largest battle of a generation, fails
to get ANY soldiers over at
tikrit.
jurov: but
they *did not* have million-armies. just gathered few
thousands of derps, maybe 1% of pop...
that could not have made a dent in gdp
jurov: certainly not
the GDP
mircea_popescu: hence back when president bahamas of 1400 ran into "a crisis", what
they did was a crusade
jurov: i suspect it isn't
the case. let's say in middle ages 95% was
the agriculture and 5%
the religion ... and now
the 5% remains under whatever guises (new age, dianetics, angelology, you name it) just
the 95% moved on
mircea_popescu: this may not be
the case in marginal, primitive lands, but
then again
technology diffuses on a gradient.
mircea_popescu: it's just
that at some point some % of gdp went into researching pewter alloys and making dumbass candlesticks and now it doesn't.
☟︎ jurov: i just don't make sense
to apply
the concept on church. did anyone perish due
to church being displaced? no?
then wtf we are having such virtual concepts?
jurov: so, if we break organized delusion and now
there's 1000s of individual ones, we have released human resources and unleashed immense potential, etc.?
mircea_popescu: (organised here is used as a psych
term of art - same way "organised delusion" works)
jurov: heh, you wish.
they learned bo bezzle instead.
mircea_popescu: it may be rare or common in your environment, but
the church sure as hell doesn't dare
try and impose a
tax, but instead fell back on
the b-a
taxation model.
mircea_popescu: well...
the
thing about rat poison is
that
the rats don't need
to know about it for it
to work.
mircea_popescu: what is "organised
terrorism" ? a large enough group of people who
think
there's absolutely nothing wrong with setting
things on fire if
they were government
things.
jurov: as i hardly know any such person, i suspect hard atheism is actually very rare
thing.
mircea_popescu: a middle aged woman in queens going "when you die you die.
that's it. you don't go anywhere." as overheard in "the conversion" seinfeld episode.
jurov: what is "organised atheism"
then?
jurov: what is "organised atheism"
then?
thestringpuller: gavin doesnt even deserve
to have his last name spelled correctly, cause who cares?
mircea_popescu: now, it's
true
that
the self important ignoramus has not been discontinued by
this ;' and it's
true
that he's found new crevices
to hide and be gavin andersen in. nevertheless,
this is not part of
the definition.
mircea_popescu: well no, removed
the entire religion
thing, from
the "must build cathedral"
to "tithe" - speaking of which, you ever seen l'avare with de funes ? epic
tithing scene in
there - and on and on. review
the literature of
the 1800s, about half
the drivel printed was various clerics opiniong self importantly on matters
they
thoroughly ignored.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: tbh
the best example of closing
technology
to date would be organised atheism.
mircea_popescu: not really. disruptive simply means
that
the industrial pathways have
to be reconstructed. not different from war in
this sense.
jurov: asciilifeform: isn't it same
thing as "disruptive innovation" before derps ran off with
the
term?