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mircea_popescu: i don't do private chats with people i don't know. you want
to
talk about something,
this is
the venue.
☟︎ okcupiddude: Lets continye
through email, shoot me an email you have it
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell mike_c
thanks for fixing it so fast. AAA+ service would buy again.
adlai is able
to load btcalpha - charts, webs,
the works
mircea_popescu: tho it's
true
that i
tend
to make istanbul
the hub of all my
travels.
that city rocks.
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell mike_c baby
the btcalpha is down what do we do! halp! plox!
gribble: Error: Failure
to retrieve
ticker.
Try again later.
okcupiddude: We can get
together in istanbul if you are in istanbul and
talk abiut what potential businesses we can conduct
togetger
okcupiddude: Yeah, i saw
that you are a businessman, an so am i
mircea_popescu: okcupiddude you must have wanted
to
talk
to me about something ?
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 04:57:20;
thestringpuller: ugh all
these expired keys is making it impossible
to build rotor with
the old script
assbot: The unhappy new years, or look at
the difference a decade makes! on
Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1ZFO44l )
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "quests" are what
the shitty AAA
titles do
to sub in for
the fact
that
their games suck,
they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as a kid.
☟︎ ascii_rear: as in, with awareness of what all of
the pgpdump fields are, yes
phf: what i meant is something like
this
http://paste.lisp.org/display/304383. of course each execution of script creates a fresh gnupg keys folder, imports
the wot, import from sks if we're going
that way, does
the operation, kills
the gnupg folder
mod6: anyway, yeah,
this is
the build script
that I created for
testing
the build of 'rotor',
TEST2, and
the static binary.
mod6: its just
the guys key.
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:01:18;
thestringpuller: gpg: Signature made Sun 31 May 2015 05:29:39 PM EDT using DSA key ID 59C36319
pete_dushenski: aha. "i
told mama i'd be a millionaire someday!" says guy with "home equity" and "registered retirement account". so
there he stays.
ascii_rear: if
there were any danger of usaschwitz inmates escaping on masse
to
this, lizards would print enough bezzlars
to bid'em up
to washington price - like in b-a.
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: 'american is never given money, he is merely shown it and allowed
to hold in his hands for a spell
to be reminded
that it exists'
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 03:36:47; pete_dushenski: "A friend’s place in a small gated courtyard, walking distance
to pretty much everything,
two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280 a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like
this
that make me scratch my head and wonder who
the fuck pays $500-600
to post a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'
phf: contributors. an obvious next step is
to have a gpg --verify buildroot.sig rely on
the contents of .wot folder, by, for example, making a
temp directory, doing a for pubkey in .wot/*.asc; do gpg --homedir $tmpdir --import $pubkey; done,
then doing gpg --homedir $tmpdir --verify foo.sig;
then rm -rf $tmpdir.
this way a .wot folder is a canonical source of pubkeys always and for all operations
phf: i understand all
that, and i was explaining
that
there's no conceptual integrity
to it, as it stands. we have a .wot folder which is supposed
to be a manually curated folder of <nick>.asc files.
there were a few
threads where mp and ascii argued
that
the folder should not be generated automatically (no sks or pre packaged
tar files). so if one wants
to build a rotor
they need a .wot folder with pubkeys of all
the foundation
mod6: anyway,
this is all changing anyway.
mod6: so
that is checked independently of V. what V does is a whole separate ball of wax.
mod6: buiroot is not v-ifiable. so in
the rotor+TEST2 build script it was decided (in here)
that we should check
the hashes and
the signatures.
phf: yeah, so
the case with mod6's version, after a #b-a
thread
ascii_rear: phf: keyring built by v for
the occasion
phf: ascii_rear: ongoing
thread about v using .wot for pubkeys, where's gpg --verify on foundation produced files relies on keyring
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:44:33; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while
the parallel of
the more-than-semi-socialist government and
the farmer is mostly very apt, a higher mortality rate doesn't have
the same downside cost for
the former as
the latter.
the best
thing for
the usg would be a plague, if only
to bring
the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into a more (if still ultimately un-)manage
phf: could probably add a subset of foundation related operations
to v, so
that staging process uses consistent mechanism (to avoid issues like i have
the key in .wot but can't seem
to verify??)
mod6: <+thestringpuller> will
the signed files/patches need
to be resigned everytime keys expire? << no. you'll notice
that his fp is
the same.
phf: so expiration date on key is literally a guard,
that has nothing
to do with crypto. gpg checks
timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need
to
☟︎ phf: thestringpuller: gpg doesn't require
that. ascii can update expiration date on
the key, republish it, and it'll continue working
mod6: phf
the deal here is
that
the build script
tries
to verify
the pgp sig of buildroot -- which is a process outside of v, so a key needs
to be imported directly into
the gpg keyring.
thestringpuller: will
the signed files/patches need
to be resigned everytime keys expire?
phf: thestringpuller: v and gpg --verify use different mechanisms for key management. pgp uses keyrings, v hides keyrings by using .wot folder
to store pubkeys as asc files. so when a key expires, your best option really is
to fetch a key somehow (???), import it into gpg's keyring so
that --verify works AND save it into .wot
mod6: just do
this `gpg --recv-keys 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319`
mod6: once you've done
that, you may wanna clean up and start
the build over again.
mod6: you need
to import
this public key
to you keyring --
there is a comment
that outlines
the keys you need in
the
top of
the script: 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319
thestringpuller: the only
thing
that's changed is
the keys. i pulled my old .wot directory
to new (more sane) macine
thestringpuller: ugh all
these expired keys is making it impossible
to build rotor with
the old script
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: The nice
thing about
the undeveloped east in Ar is
that
there's plenty of room for concentration camps.
pete_dushenski: must be hr depts with budgets
that must be spent, lest
they get chopped
the following year since
they were 'unneeded'
the year prior
pete_dushenski: "A friend’s place in a small gated courtyard, walking distance
to pretty much everything,
two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280 a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like
this
that make me scratch my head and wonder who
the fuck pays $500-600
to post a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'
☟︎ lobito: thanks for
the chat ^^
mircea_popescu: nobody ultimately cares what zig ziggler, karl marx or dale carnegey
think.
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:16:31; mircea_popescu: it fucking boggles me.
this city has 10x
the population of berlin, 0.1%
the entertainment venues and
this guy actually
thinks
there "are many" SADLY.
mircea_popescu: lobbes you have
to appreciate
that marx is a minor
thinker. it's not
that people've not read it. it's
that his output is about as intellectually important as any other diet guru / expert in expertises.
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:08:53; ascii_rear: 'fair' in my mind means fifty shitsacks moved into my house. no
thx.
lobito: it's a classic :P promise it won't
turn you into a communist
lobito: "Marx's work in economics laid
the basis for much of
the current understanding of labour and its relation
to capital, and subsequent economic
thought."
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while
the parallel of
the more-than-semi-socialist government and
the farmer is mostly very apt, a higher mortality rate doesn't have
the same downside cost for
the former as
the latter.
the best
thing for
the usg would be a plague, if only
to bring
the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into a more (if still ultimately un-)manageable positio
☝︎☟︎ kakobrekla: doesnt happen
to me, i get up in
the afternoon
ben_vulpes: no, i get
that in
the mirror every morning
kakobrekla: i didnt
think youd need affirmation for
that
ben_vulpes foiled by
the universal abhorrence of symmetry in api design
kakobrekla: it did say -assbot- kakobrekla, you can't do
that
to ben_vulpes. (Trust: L1 1, L2 17)
ben_vulpes: assbot said nothing, and i have voice changes
turned off.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't
think my down even
took.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine he's ever been exposed
to you know... actual people with actual criteria before.
lobito: > desperate
to pay poor women
to get laid
ben_vulpes: surely not enough of
them are missing enough children for
the economy
to fail
to require
they all
take care of
the grandkinder...
mircea_popescu: yeah, i've been kinda suspecting
the root of
the whole mess is
that old women actually dare sit by
themselves in sidewalk cafes as if
they're people or something.
ben_vulpes: you'd have
to clear
the grandmothers out first
mircea_popescu: i can't even recommend
that everyone under 30 be beaten weekly in
the nude in front of
the obelsico until
things are fixed.
mircea_popescu: and
the most annoying
thing about
this all is
that
they fucking had a strongarm regime.
ben_vulpes: this strikes me as a not-half-bad strategy: live in poverty for 9 mos,
travel (also in poverty, but looking sooper cool) around fucking
the young hotties for 1.5, come home and live on someone's couch looking for
the next cafe
that needs a warm body.
ben_vulpes: this is also why
the hipster girls are shaving
their
temples when
they have otherwise rather nice and well-kempt heads. all
the hipster boys work in coffee shops 22 hours/wk, and live in poverty
to spend
their
time
touring with 'their band'.
ben_vulpes: how boggle? i didn't notice any l33t doodz in bsas
the girls'd dress
to
the nines for.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
the one
thing
that boggles my mind
the most in all
this is
that none of
them seem
to realise
that yes
there's something fucking wrong with not owning a cocktail dress and spending all your
time on netflix.
mircea_popescu: otherwise... i don't
think he'd spit on argentina if it were on fire or something.