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mircea_popescu: and i forget who else was asking me about it.
mircea_popescu: includes source. davout pankkake
mircea_popescu: http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ << new eulora release.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha von-schlep
mircea_popescu: then someone emulates quantum computers in a zx80 emulator emularted within a gpu card and bam
mircea_popescu: look throguh the math there, do your own calculations.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well sure.
mircea_popescu: article in question.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/
mircea_popescu: the computational cost of the network has been calculated, on trilema, it was scary back then. it's way worse now.
mircea_popescu: noone's selling.
mircea_popescu: people are currently desperate to buy stuff to wreck the network with
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan it's not strictly a matter of cost.
mircea_popescu: if there's no future you've not lost anything.
mircea_popescu: that's no sort of bet.
mircea_popescu: people short-term stored in silver.
mircea_popescu: seems to me it was purely a long term store.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> idea being, gold was never purely a long-term store <<< this will need fleshing out.
mircea_popescu: you're just looking at its zit.
mircea_popescu: no it's a dragon
mircea_popescu: threowing a virgin that way once or twice is sensible.
mircea_popescu: roughly we're in the situation of "dragon moved in hillside next to village"
mircea_popescu: not that there's anything wrong with trying anything and everything on the beast.
mircea_popescu: no, it does not "store value" any more than "empathy" as used by the libertard is either human or virtuous.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan this seems to me a completely unwarranted generalisation that actrually breaks logic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform go on ?
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan not clear, but er is the clap.
mircea_popescu: reality does not care what we expect, turns out.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan so did satoshi.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> time to digest a meal: ~6 hours. does that mean that one should be able to go without meal for ~72 yrs << yes, if they were a payment processor.
mircea_popescu: course this is more of a case of hawala reduces to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if one takes a conceptual hawala rather than any particular historical implementation, no.
mircea_popescu: fucking java.
mircea_popescu: ikr?
mircea_popescu: this was actually tested back in the old days of mpoe, works just fine.
mircea_popescu: i mean, we can do blockchain propagation and mining via email ffs.
mircea_popescu: "here, take this pre-signed tx, put it in your block"
mircea_popescu: benkay actually, no trust needed.
mircea_popescu: otherwise btc is just borkt and needs fixing
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan well presumably whatever suspends btc suspends all btc-likes
mircea_popescu: obviously presuming liniarty and so on and so forth, but just for the sake of it.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore, tolerable btc outage should be something like 2 years.
mircea_popescu: tolerable ccp service outage, ~one day, from experience so far.
mircea_popescu: built-in ccp delay on a payment, ~1 second. built in btc delay on a payment, ~10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: let's do some napkin calculations here.
mircea_popescu: well, more of a long term slower moving thing yeah
mircea_popescu: and no, you should not rely on bitcoin. this has been explicitly stated since day one. bitcoin is not here for you to rely on.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan not sure if you ever read http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 ?
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan not really. bitcoin is not visa.
mircea_popescu: so you would.
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: when you say sha was breached you're not describing some nitnoy thing nobody cares about.
mircea_popescu: well ?
mircea_popescu: (your q was as to coordinate moving, not as to patching, mind)
mircea_popescu: what's the thinking ?
mircea_popescu: or maybe you overestimate.
mircea_popescu: "hi guise, here is problem, here is patch, pls install so and so"
mircea_popescu: it takes all of five minutes
mircea_popescu: and you can do whatever you want on the old chain.
mircea_popescu: if it IS known however the code will just be patched to take it out, and people will move on the new system for cause
mircea_popescu: if your crack is not known, then maybe for a while you can benefit from it.
mircea_popescu: not practically.
mircea_popescu: and stuff will have to be emergency-migrated.
mircea_popescu: even if you somehow bash one hash function in, you still don't really have enough yet
mircea_popescu: this incidentally is why bitcoin addresses are encoded so layeredly.
mircea_popescu: hash function can be a huge problem.
mircea_popescu: serious bugs not so much, really.
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: so is atc.
mircea_popescu: bullocks would be ok, but the "six digits or less" is equal to saying in that other context "60 kgs or over"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more like cats.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is like, you know, reactionary, conservative, evil, sane. you're either rich or smart or invisible.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan dollah i meant.
mircea_popescu: im all for it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and perhaps we'll be fucking rid of all the forum investors.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin's adoption among people worth six digits or less is irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan "adoption" means something strictly different from pageviews
mircea_popescu: speculation of the sort and type that the exchanges enable and reddit/forum/.etc support is about as fundamental to bitcoin as druggies were.
mircea_popescu: people imagine exchanges are fundamental to bitcoin price. they'll close, no ill effects to be recorded.
mircea_popescu: people thought silk road is fundamental to bitcoin value. it closed, no ill effects recorded.
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149458.700
mircea_popescu: from paying out" wagon
mircea_popescu: sorta mess) is jumping on board the "o no malleability is preventing us
mircea_popescu: i've been back to say hey next time listen to me before you get into this
mircea_popescu: list securities, and which has been fucking up massively since, and which
mircea_popescu: which i beat the shit out of when they decided to start letting people
mircea_popescu: crypto-trade (neotrix's deal that used to be an altcoin marketplace, and
mircea_popescu: for a glimpse at my forum digests :
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: djvu ?
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: which... you know, if galateea ever happens...
mircea_popescu: i can't help but think you're pretty close to biofilm 3d printing.
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder did you obtain the painting by smear selected bacteria or by smearing uniform bacteria with particular mutagen ?
mircea_popescu: ok that's pretty cool
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: well cool!