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ascii_butugychag: y'know, the thing that people actually use
mircea_popescu: i did say it's scandalous. this is no small part of why.
ascii_butugychag: sorta why i didn't cut'em up to begin with
jurov: mircea_popescu: still, then it would be the first successful ever of non-axiomatic proof of nonexistence
mircea_popescu: if he wanted to make two patches, he would have. if you wish to invalidate his call, make the two fucking patches and sign them. goes right back to the "implicit trust" machinery thing.
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 19:32:56; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375260 << i do not want this
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375595 << i think it's bad also. not merely the sports thing, but, it offends the will of the author. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: jurov this is still not the same.
jurov: undecidable statement is proven to not have discoverable answer
ascii_butugychag: with the programmer in hell.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: everybody knows it i think
mircea_popescu: if it is known an invalidating case can't exist this implies truth.
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 20:15:48; mircea_popescu: nah it'll end up like "true because there in principle can't exist a system in which you could formulate a contradiction".
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375677 << and how is this different from "undecidable statement"? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you know the "break's over, head down" joke ?
ascii_butugychag: iirc somebody wrote a very spiffy generator for these.
mircea_popescu: can they be capitalized so we're as cool as NSA and early LISP ? MECHANICGIRAFFESORBET
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 19:30:58; jurov: just use three word codes. that would be defo talmudic
ascii_butugychag: i was going to write an actual blog post about the flycheck thing
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375582 << not for any fundamental reason tho ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: and these all, at least if you use the recommended installer (no other instructions are provided), loaded from the net straight
ascii_butugychag: it wants to load from the net !!
mircea_popescu: o look, script finally terminated. now here's 6gb worth of okcupid profiles including as best as i can discern all females to sift through.
ascii_butugychag: oh and i suppose for completeness of this thread i oughta mention one other thing
ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell ben_vulpes any idea why 'flymake' on mac never finds makefiles ?
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: aha. this is only not yet achieved for purely technical reasons.
mircea_popescu: "you don't buy a car - you merely acquire the right to transport yourself according to the tos etc". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag i fully expect this is where us car production is headed.
ascii_butugychag: and if your street is not on this list, shuddup and die.
ascii_butugychag: imagine if your car came with a list of all possible streets it can make left turns into ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if you feel hurt in any way to any degree by anything you read - the problem is you. fix yourself.
ascii_butugychag: https://github.com/flycheck/flycheck/blob/master/flycheck.el#L5807 << BEHOLD, all of the things that are supposed to be gcc flags, ENUMERATED
mircea_popescu: i wish to know what other definition for immaturity can be had, than a subjective expectations of others to accommodate your feelings.
ascii_butugychag: unless you're a terrorist.
ascii_butugychag: one is, i suspect, supposed to use some proprietary build system, such as crapple's
ascii_butugychag: then realized that the motherfucker prolly gets away with this because.. makefiles are 'out of fashion' !
mircea_popescu: foofoos an feefees are the responsibility of the foofoo-feefeer and his alone what the fuck already.
ascii_butugychag: then realized that it is ~intrinsically~ unusable for any serious project
ascii_butugychag: i spent all day trying to get this piece of not-even-qualified-to-be-shit to run
ascii_butugychag: and emacs was allowed to decay to the point where the tool that ACTUALLY FUCKING WORKS AND IS 100 LINES AND NEVER EVER BREAKS is now broken
ascii_butugychag: what i want to know is how this became a standard
mircea_popescu: "And if someone takes issue with something you said or did, resist the urge to be defensive. Just stop doing what it was they complained about and apologize. Even if you feel you were misinterpreted or unfairly accused, chances are good there was something you could have communicated better — remember that it’s your responsibility to make your fellow Flycheck people comfortable."
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: you know this fella?
mircea_popescu: Copyright (c) 2014 The Rust Project Developers
mircea_popescu: Adapted from the Rust Code of Conduct.
mircea_popescu: and they end up adding -include ?
ascii_butugychag: THIS IS TO BE READ FROM THE MOTHERFUCKING MAKEFILE
mircea_popescu: seems there's a -std= added for instance
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: aha, he will put in my individual custom include paths, sure thing
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Interested in doing a rant for Qntra on the "code of conduct" phenomenon and poetteringization?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag guy seems willing to accomodate tho
ascii_butugychag: and i go to the site, and guess what i see,
ascii_butugychag: '@sethfowler I won't allow arbitrary command lines for syntax checkers. ... Tell me, which concrete flags you need, and I'll add corresponding options.'
assbot: Allow arbitrary commandline arguments for the clang checker · Issue #207 · flycheck/flycheck · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBT96p )
ascii_butugychag: i am only speaking of this here because it turns out to be a PERFECT example of poetteringization
mircea_popescu: epic interview, i think the last one too, on the tv show of that guy with the camera in demo mode
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think that was maye 2012
mircea_popescu: the one that was going to save us through his boyish good looks and vctron smarts ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i recall the "currently only bitcoinica and blabla" expert opinions of years past. anyone old enough to remember shtylman, the genius-boy-expert with a funny hat of 2013 ?
ascii_butugychag: and so you have to set custom environment variables to set include paths, or gcc flags, etc
BingoBoingo: First notable change in the wake of Silbert/Selkis Coindesk takeover: "currently only two nascent bitcoin platforms worth watching in 2016: Coinbase and 21 Inc" https://archive.is/MWlK3
ascii_butugychag: flymake was very simple, it just ran your makefile, which was required to have a check-syntax line in it (see, e.g., my block extractor program for example)
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 19:22:47; danielpbarron: i would say that people seeking attunement should read the source and not the notes scribbled in the margins
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375566 << "read the code" huh. ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: which is THE standard compile-and-markup-your-window-with-errors-and-warnings widget for emacs
BingoBoingo: It's a clear candidate for not Qntra as writing it would be for my personal development rather than reporting of Bitcoin news. Because deep intellectual failings presented by other outlets is not news in itself
ascii_butugychag: in other nyooz, HOLY SHIT is 'flycheck' (the supposed replacement, pushed everywhere one meets shithub types, for 'flymake') a piece of shit !!
mircea_popescu: fancy that one!
BingoBoingo might have to fire up the not-Qntra blogotron this week to go over this
BingoBoingo: Hegelianism though refers to a specific Anglophone phenomenon unrelated to actual Hegel
BingoBoingo: deeding was a response to https://archive.is/70Zz9
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In the United States "Hegelianism" was for time a derpy populist movement among the class that would birth Clitler. These are the people who would latch on to John Dewey.
mircea_popescu: there's a delicious mockery of this, century+old. sadly, in romanian,
mircea_popescu: "fought the devils"
BingoBoingo: For all practical purposes actual historical Hegel is irrelevant to discussions of popular hegelianism
mircea_popescu: most likely go ask for an audience with hitler to complain.
mircea_popescu: oh that. no contest.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Perhaps historical hegel would. Hegel as used by derps that spz popular socialist conception of hegel can eat a dick.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo fuck you, hegel would totally kick your boy's butt.
mircea_popescu: people love to view the field of expression as unfinite. then again, they loved to see the west the same way.
mircea_popescu: nah it'll end up like "true because there in principle can't exist a system in which you could formulate a contradiction". ☟︎
mircea_popescu just realised we're actually in danger of falling into a unified theory of everything with all this, and nobody'll even understand it.
mircea_popescu: for your sins you'll have to brush almost as much crud off all that stuff as anyone trying to use linux today.
mircea_popescu: jurov well if you're bored you can read up on literary theory. if not, your question can't really be answered.
mircea_popescu: if i were a sapper i'd have long ago moved on to relaxing by the maker's pool.
mircea_popescu: either that or i had the thing lying around on my hdd for two years to the day now
mod6: time doesn't matter anyway, only the block height matters
mircea_popescu: lol i guess this shows just how unreliable the non-blockchgain timestamp is
mircea_popescu: (indicative and dispositive are used here, ftr, as classical legal concepts. something's indicative if it contains or procures a means to evaluate the truth of a claim. something's dispositive if it is the means to resolve a claim.)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hm ? <+mircea_popescu> deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0AEEMJB.txt <+mod6> January the 18th 2014
mircea_popescu: (not in the sense that the post-structuralist blabla is even indicative, nor that the original structuralist view dispositive. but even in a much more restrained, conservative view, the concept carries water.)
mircea_popescu: jurov you know what they mean by textuality, intertextuality and all that jazz ?
mircea_popescu: there they be.
ascii_butugychag: ^ the original
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ascii_butugychag: or hm, that's some lamer's copy
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mod6: January the 18th 2014 ☟︎
BingoBoingo: view of the world which make infinity and continuity to be its sessence, and that pessimistic or optimistic attitudes pertain to the mere accidental subjectivity of the moment; finally, that the identification of contradictories, so far from being the self-developing process which Hegel supposes, is really a self-consuming process, passing from the less to the more abstract, and terminating either in a laugh at the ultimate nothi