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mircea_popescu: i don't see how it can be avoided. us banks currently have no legitimate way to turn a profit.
EskimoBob: JPM in pink sheets - this will be a funny day
EskimoBob: penny stock is not necessarily a OTC stock
mircea_popescu: and it's how it will unwind, banks go in the pink sheets while the proceeds buy gold and a fraction thereof buys btc.
mircea_popescu: In a harbinger of what may be coming our way in the Fall of 2012, billionaire financier George Soros has sold all of his equity positions in major financial stocks according to a 13-F report filed with the SEC for the quarter ending June 30, 2012.
mircea_popescu: depends on your connection. a coupla hours ?
mircea_popescu: that's because we live in the end of a systgem
DeaDTerra: we must have a strong reversal soon, it has gone to fast and to long without a reversal
mircea_popescu: satoshi came back as a retarded guy with an italian accent.
DeaDTerra: I would rather support Bitcoin as a whole and not only the IRC channels
usagi: Not sure who that is, i live in a bubble
DeaDTerra: Yea supporting a client sounds good
DeaDTerra: like a Bitcoin development charity or something?
rg: someones about to make a lot of money on bitvps
mircea_popescu: smickles a little bonbon : volume in shares, volume in satoshi
smickles: i'm proud that I wrote it as a one-liner :D
smickles: i've writen a fun bit of code which converts Ts and Ns into the appropriate dates which even accounts for the fact that Ts after the last friday actually referr to next month's last friday
dub: thats a rough translation
mircea_popescu: happened instead is a consistent equity leak that has remained unresolved
mircea_popescu: a flatline the next. I covered most of the deficit from the hack on the
copumpkin: forgot a decimal and now you own my options :P for nothing at all
mircea_popescu: somebody had a session stolen on glbse recently tho, iirc.
mircea_popescu: course, it's a lot more difficult to do for traditional sites esp over https.
smickles: wait a sec
mircea_popescu: some people started using it as a definitive model of assesing risk, and as a result fucked up pretty bad.
mircea_popescu: smickles : that thing is a mathematical approach to evaluating the likeliness of joint default in similar assets.
smickles: that's a little beyond me right now
mircea_popescu: maybe, tho honestly, if you're offering bank bonds it'd make more sense to just give up all pretense and tranche them in a cdo
smickles: so then a proper bond would be the way to go
mircea_popescu: the fact that it gives you info proves you have a key registered.
copumpkin: what will stat tell me? I ran it and it gave me a bunch of info
mircea_popescu: if you can see a stat it's safe for you.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: "NOTE : You must have a key already registered to deposit. DO NOT send money if your key is not registered. (You can check if it is with STAT)."
smickles: it's not a bond tho
mircea_popescu: jesus we're making such a mess of finance.
smickles: people who want a say in the actions of s2, and
smickles: kinda like a strange preferred stock
smickles: i kinda want s2 to issue a bond
mircea_popescu: could be a fund of bank bonds.
smickles: well, wouldn't a fund have equity stakes in the banks?
mircea_popescu: so it's a sort of fund of banks ?
smickles: with positions set which essentially equiate to a 4x leveraged lon positon
smickles: mpex users are implying a volitility > 153%
smickles: in a less volitile market 3 strikes away has a delta of 0.9x
mircea_popescu: smickles while it's true that 0.9x is dim, i don't think 0.9x is a requirement. pretty much 2-3 strikes away from atm is dim afaic.
smickles: maybe a handful more nines
mircea_popescu: what are you, a pearl digger ?
smickles: not technically at a delta of -0.88
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'd like that, right now you don't offer a deep in the money put
mircea_popescu: smickles delta is not a reflection of mkt demand unless the prices you use are issued by the mkt
sgornick_: So when O.BTCUSD.C140T shows n/a for Last means not a single $14 CALL option was bought? Seems unlikely nobody wanted to.
mircea_popescu: i can change them any time so it's not such a big deal either way i don't think.
mircea_popescu: seems a tad confusing. i dunno, maybe i made a bad choice but it seemed to me more comfortable / intuitive esp for beginners.
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, shouldn't the highest available call have a delta of (practically) 1?
mircea_popescu: some systems use a sort of technique kinda akin to url shortening too.
mircea_popescu: go A B C D E for may etc.
smickles: mircea_popescu: you know, the 20 doesn't have a delta > 0.999
sgornick_: mircea_popescu: Couple of questions for you, got a minute?
smickles: that's a nicer version of it
mircea_popescu: it's a sidemeasure of technical volatility.
mircea_popescu: lasers work over a good distance.
smickles: that's be a nifty aparatus to set up, and no one notice it
mircea_popescu: for instance, a new way to steal cards consists of using a laser to measure temperature right after owner used the card
smickles: well maybe that's why i'm not a comp sci phd
mircea_popescu: seems more like a (pretty strong) random number generator than anything.
smickles: so it's probably a moot point
smickles: well, (just off hand) you are prolly using a modified BS or the binomial method to value the options. the side channel attack could use an assumption of what sort of hardware you have + the amount of time it taks for the bot to do it's calc + the method used to calc value and deduce the unknown values you use in valuing your options, then take advantage
copumpkin: there was a lot more stuff on it a minute ago
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 100 @ 0.03 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 90 @ 0.03 = 2.7 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you had a golden hand.
mircea_popescu: a hey cool.
mircea_popescu: as in, the person who finds a hole steals all yer coinz too.
mircea_popescu: on a 20 put with price at 10, 1 btc.
smickles: do they give you a link before it's approved (youtube style)?
dub: mircea_popescu: is there a timeframe beyond which you will not honour it?
Diablo-D3: so I have an excuse to wear a giant suit of armor
Diablo-D3: man, I need to get a short blond friend
dub: can take a week to get the bet approved
dub: how about a month
mircea_popescu: i'd guess a week ?
mircea_popescu: i meant copy the text and leave a link to the pastebin
mircea_popescu: lol you c/p'd the signature too liek a noob!
dub: 1,337 isnt a number
Ignatius-otc: then we might get to see more than a ddos:-/
Obsi: 1,337 would bring in a whole new class of hackers that you wouldn't want to confuse
Diablo-D3: there is a reddit for pentesting
smickles: is there a particular subreddit that would be best for this sort of thing?
Ignatius-otc: Where are you hosted MP? I have yet to find a host who would approve of such a thing/honeypot.
smickles: alright, can I have a clearsigned msg saying it's ok by you
mircea_popescu: it's a hacker thing.
smickles: i have a reddit acct
mircea_popescu: mkay. anyone with a reddit account and a longer pole than Diablo-D3's ?
mircea_popescu: Mind putting MPEx up there for a free-for-all pentesting ?
mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone with a reddit account ?
Obsi: hour and a half till it's expired
mircea_popescu: daily dividends really burn a lot of admin time
Obsi: Anyone know at what point Godaddy autorenews a domain?
mircea_popescu: a you're doing fiber hook-ups