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assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 06:50:36; asciilifeform: reminds me of how, allegedly, a 'go' board and its stones made their way to leonhard euler. and he concluded that the game was played by tossing'em into the cavity at the bottom between the legs
polarbeard: starcraft is more like real time chess, I'd say
thestringpuller: Although I don't know anyone that can compete with the Koreans in Starcraft
thestringpuller: aha. I imagine you would be good at Real Time Strategy games.
thestringpuller: those too
asciilifeform: ('video' where i live traditionally refers to game consoles that plug into tv)
thestringpuller: yes as in thing you put in computer with flashing lights and stuff that you play for fun
asciilifeform: (who exactly ~was~ zooko? known for anything other than 'triangle' aphorism ?)
asciilifeform: re: earlier thread, now that zooko is coopted, and previously chaum, and who else,
jurov: http://www.ethereumpyramid.com/ forget systemd. prb must support this!
asciilifeform: (it was the horizontal kind with individual togglers for each mains plug)
asciilifeform: it's the switches that make that thing spiffy
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nobody ever gives a fuck about the oxide varistor, it does exactly nothing
asciilifeform: not so cool, apparently these are no longer made
BingoBoingo: Happens from time to time
asciilifeform just watched the master toggle on a 25 y.o. under-monitor surge protector thingie ~explode~ in a shower of sparks ☟︎
pete_dushenski used to listen to pantera, the band, a bit.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: He's trying to make joke about the band Pantera. RIP Dimebag
mircea_popescu: in other news that are nevertheless more relevant to bitcoin than reddit will ever be, http://40.media.tumblr.com/21e7e3dfeb3aabebd8139cbb1937a3f8/tumblr_ni8bn65F111s5t2ojo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: ok the 2nd BingoBoingo link was kinda lulzy.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: pantera 'capital' too.
BingoBoingo: Well, if the dam is tall enough the Mississippi will fill up a good basin. Just gotta make 1993 flood the low water mark
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> peterL, Just gotta raise the river then << ideally, put it on a jack. "maybe i'll come down, maybe i won't. don't mess up my beer, man!"
mircea_popescu: heh look at all the kids that don't know better / derps nobody heard about coralled by pantera and advised by gavin & schmuckteam.
assbot: Fatty thinks flying is a right, doesn't understand why its being "discriminated" against ... ( http://bit.ly/20poKA5 )
BingoBoingo: In other lulz https://archive.is/LY9is and https://archive.is/W9HlJ << Delicious tears
BingoBoingo: Sure, in the gulf of Mexico it just makes big dead zones. Moving the mess upstream preserves tropical beaches while flooding ghetto
jurov: In the Gulf of Mexico there's little change it will spill and kill everything downstream
BingoBoingo: Well it already settles down and concentrates in the Gulf of Mexico. This would just move where it happens.
jurov: BingoBoingo: it's different when it's continuously mixed and when it's allowed to settle down and concentrate
BingoBoingo: jurov: Every city's sewer and all the various indistry along it constantly pump weird shit into it.
BingoBoingo: peterL, Just gotta raise the river then
BingoBoingo: <jurov> hydropower means large lagoons that tend to acumulate toxic deposits that noone wants to touch. coal and nuclear mean radioactive toxic waste, too. while defunct windmill means piece of perfectly usable structural alloy. << How is this different from the Mississippi river at present?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << dude, i don't care if he gives away clinton's hairy snatch and the secret of immortality 45 minutes in. who the fuck has the time for this sorta thing. << Reddit commnets were lulzy. Didn't sonsider anyone would try listening or operate a browser capable of listening.
asciilifeform: i am dealing with something quite similar on the other side of my desk, but folks ~pay~ on that side
asciilifeform: holy fuck the academitardism.
asciilifeform: (i can't bring myself to)
asciilifeform: https://github.com/scipr-lab/libsnark << the crypto lib the thing rides on, in case anybody gives half a shit
assbot: Zcash - Our Team ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZO2QUR )
thestringpuller: We'll see how this goes!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the picric acid... going anhydrous phenol + fuming sulphuric acid to get hydroxyphenylsulfonic acid and then fuming nitric acid on top of that... should be a fun little experiment :D
assbot: Saint Anthony Falls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1VlnlHe )
mod6: maybe im not quite right about the erosion, anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Anthony_Falls
mircea_popescu: (all this talk re new ice age is quite on point, incidentally. the crazed us cultists of pseudoscience are loudly proclaiming a narrative bluntly contradictory to the data. altogether more likely we're headed for cool.)
mircea_popescu: would make a pretty splendid sf novel too.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, geothermal. in fact that'll be the competition in case of new ice age. nuclear vs geothermal.
mircea_popescu: it does not present an actual species threat for any species.
mircea_popescu: also - the way nuclear is dirty is very peculiar. pollution in the sense of poison - kills everyone. pollution in the sense of nuclear leakeage - does not. it just shortens lifespan and increases the angle of attack at DNA research.
mod6: Need to look this up quick.
assbot: Logged on 25-01-2016 05:00:08; BingoBoingo: mod6: When do you think it would make sense to dam the Mississippi river to generate hydroelectric power for mining?
mod6: <+PeterL> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385014 << hydro power is proportional to water drop, you can't really get much power out of a flat river like missississippi << very true. the one we were discussing yesterday is at St. Anthonys Falls. Which apparently helped the city long ago get its start. Its not very big, and since they put in the dam, apparenlty this has eroded the origin ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if the sun does turn off, you'll have more ice than you'll know what to do with.
mircea_popescu: sure. doesn't do much for this discussion.
jurov: 99% of nuclear is unusable without ample access to cooling water
mircea_popescu: (and yes this has been tested in practice, it's not at all theoretical. nuclear subs are more important for THIS reason than whatever justified their existence at the time.)
mircea_popescu: it quite literally represents security from thermodynamics, in a way very similar to how the bombs were marketed at the time to represent "Security from the enemies".
mircea_popescu: contrary to aqll the brouhaha at the time, about how "mankind has found the way to end itself" bla bla, nothing could be further from the truth. nuclear power provides humanity a hard guarantee against large scale catastrophe that no other life has, nor could have without thios particular tech.
mircea_popescu: (before you say "so do fossils" - think again. where do you get the oxygen ?)
mircea_popescu: anyway, re nuclear. while it is dirty in a certain way, it has an advantage nothing else does : it would work just as well with the sun turned off. this is a big deal, fundamentally. whether it means anything in practice or not... well...
assbot: Here's where you forget about "wind power" as an alternative source of power. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VlkqOC )
mircea_popescu: we'll live off of selling electricity to you there.
mircea_popescu: if there's both mill and hydro plant, well... finally ecoregulations can be forced on the mill. and if it doesn't like it... fuck you, move to germany.
mircea_popescu: if there's nothing but textile mill on the veh, textile mill gets to poison the river.
mircea_popescu: well, look at it the other way : maybe it finally provides the much needed impetuus to force the polluters upstream to clean up their act.
jurov: that was not my point. i wanted to say, there are cubic kilometers of liabilities likely to happen
jurov: on other hand you handwave the pollution away
mircea_popescu: so on one hand your argument is logically unsound, and on the other hand the benefit of hydro is certain.
jurov: i think you are
mircea_popescu: the hydro plant has exactly nothing to do with pollutants upstream.
mircea_popescu: uh. are you being purposefully thick ?
jurov: romania has pointy tits. and?
mircea_popescu: jurov the saggy tits thing invalidates the 'argument' such as it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in any case that's what the ~second~ hit is for
jurov: yes it helped romania. how does it invalidate the argument?
PeterL: I dunno, I'm not that familliar with shaped charges
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sufficiently large shaped charge blows a hole through whatever.
mircea_popescu: not modern ones, at least not the ones with the active armor additions.
asciilifeform: i thought this was pretty clear.
asciilifeform: the pegs are standoffs - shaped charge requires them
asciilifeform: if you can get close enough to the tank - any tank, even modern one - it will work great...
asciilifeform: PeterL: dunno, never tried personally
PeterL: I guess the question is, does it work?
asciilifeform: there is an interesting clip somewhere on the net of the vietnamese army, some time in the era of ho chi minh, marching around proudly with these (presumably captured from jp forces in ww2)
mircea_popescu: sex leads to saggy boobs : saggy boobs are seen in all females after 20-30 years of fucking, if not earlier.
asciilifeform: PeterL: yes. also known as the 'lunge mine'. it had no delay fuse at all!
mircea_popescu: <jurov> since the 1950s the hydropower potential of Vah river in Slovakia was almost completely developed and exactly this happened, lakes brim-full of stuff noone knows how to dispose << this may be, but on the other hand romania exists as an industrial power rather than an argentinian farm shithole strictly because of massive hydro power developments post ww2
PeterL: http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_tankhunters/fig1_japanese_lunge_mine_antitank.jpg << is that a shaped charge spear?
mircea_popescu: jurov this slander re hydro is not unlike saying sex leads to saggy boobs.
asciilifeform: and ru navy had only picrin (on account of tnp having killed their top armaments designer, when he experimented personally) and to this is often attributed the loss in 1907
asciilifeform: jp lost more than one ship to own 'shimoza' (trinitrophenol) shell magazines
mircea_popescu: anyway. picric acid at least is more stable than guncotton, the golden standard of "oops, we fired our cannon there goes the ship" application
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2015 02:43:04; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cutting out completely looks rather like this: http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_tankhunters/fig1_japanese_lunge_mine_antitank.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but wunderwaffen-warfare is ~largely~ this kind of thing. << quite very much so. and tlp's "frantic activity as a cover for impotence" explains a lot of it.
assbot: Logged on 25-01-2016 05:00:08; BingoBoingo: mod6: When do you think it would make sense to dam the Mississippi river to generate hydroelectric power for mining?
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2016#1385014 << hydro power is proportional to water drop, you can't really get much power out of a flat river like missississippi ☝︎
kakobrekla: newer dams are actually built in a way that flushes that sediments periodically, they fucked it up on the Nile tho.
jurov: (and another 3% thanks to Danube)
jurov: while contributing measly 1% to nation's electrcity supply
jurov: since the 1950s the hydropower potential of Vah river in Slovakia was almost completely developed and exactly this happened, lakes brim-full of stuff noone knows how to dispose
kakobrekla: well they would still get that in either case