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assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:13:24; mircea_popescu: but this is a very far seeing thing, for now it means ~nothing to bitcoind
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387032 << initially the thing is to be used, very carefully, as a kind of scriptable debugger (e.g., 'when a tx comes in, do XXX' ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387030 << actually the basic shivatron is done, but i'd like to test before posting ☝︎
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if you recall the raging arguments between the hyerophants and the zealots, s-expr was the one faint hope the alphabetic side nailed its hopes on.
jurov: ^ thestringpuller
gribble: S-expression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression>; S-Expressions - Rosetta Code: <http://rosettacode.org/wiki/S-Expressions>; Lisp: list vs S-expression - Stack Overflow: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10771107/lisp-list-vs-s-expression>
mircea_popescu: actually it's the hole through which the day comes in, to stick to estalibhsed metaphora.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ahh, ok thanks for clearing that up.
jurov: plus, as the database/datastructure (both in-memory and on-disk) implementations in C/C++ are retarded, they may be replaced by scheme ones (don't take that as promise on my part)
mircea_popescu: but this is a very far seeing thing, for now it means ~nothing to bitcoind ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the idea is to replace json with sexpr which means you'll have to have some sort of scheme in there. and once you do, it'll replace the retarded format of coin scripts too, eventually. ☟︎
jurov: the integration to come later
jurov: no he sent today only the tinyscheme code
mod6: I have no clue. Was hoping asciilifeform would explain all of this when he gets a chance. ☟︎
PeterL: I thought Shiva is tinyscheme stuffed into the R.I. ?
mod6: Or how do we utilize this.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WN9kDm )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000194.html << Cool! I missed this lastnight. Can we use this to build the R.I. as we know it today, or is 'Shiva' the name of the required changes to the R.I. to use tinyscheme?
mircea_popescu: and i resent the "narrative" implication, especially seeing how it's your fucking problem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa. <<< this is factually not so. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 15:22:52; mircea_popescu: Following a campaign by 100 advocacy groups, Facebook agreed to update its policy on hate speech. The campaign highlighted content promoting domestic and sexual violence against women, and used over 57,000 tweets and more than 4,900 emails that caused withdrawal of advertising from the site by 15 companies, including Nissan UK, House of Burlesque and Nationwide UK. The social media website initially
jurov: "Move 2) Core formally, publicly, and clearly denounces the censorship that has plagued community discussion, and should apologize for not having done so earlier. "
jurov: "Move 1) Core clearly commits to a hard fork block size increase, by adding it to its formal roadmap."
assbot: Core Devs: Communication has improved, thank you. Two more moves, and the civil war may end. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JENEaE )
PeterL: BingoBoingo, "six members of the members of the" 1st paragraph
asciilifeform: farmer - knows how to deal with the bull.
asciilifeform: any more than stampeding bulls are partizans on a farm.
asciilifeform: but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa.
asciilifeform: (even the urban black gangs are better candidates...)
asciilifeform: i know that mircea_popescu gotta have his 'tough, resourceful partizans vs cowardly, blundering polizei' narrative. but look for it elsewhere.
asciilifeform: as demonstrated by every single interaction between them and usg, ever, to date.
asciilifeform: they are the full intellectual equals of the new york death ray schmuck
asciilifeform: usaschwitz 'militia' folk are not pashtuns. they come from the same broken culture as everybody else.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 05:41:09; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start. << they have a word for the dudes knowing the results of experiments aforehand, and that name pointedly isn't scientist.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386973 << this is 'experiment' in the same sense as.. dropping a cube of sugar in a glass of water. ☝︎
asciilifeform dreamed that the only type of meat now permitted was: worm, and was touring a former sausage factory, where they still made sausages, but never sold'em - only hung them up in specially-made racks to be infested by worms and converted entirely to them, before shipment
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 03:08:00; srijan: thanks adlai for the info. kakobrekla, would you be able to help with that?
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386872 < yes it is possible to do that ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Truefax: After Deliverance was released a major tourism and rafting industry developed along that stretch of river
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 00:09:14; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell davout good job https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42tcqm/eli5_wouldnt_it_be_extremely_inefficient_to_copy/
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386719 <<< feels like tossing a mentos in diet coke ☝︎
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BingoBoingo: lol Trumettes can cry all they like. My establishment boy Rubio's still the BitBet (i.e. real) favorite for the nomination https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.46301616 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b79
BingoBoingo: "Recruits and their parents will have questions about either approach, although question No. 1 should be: How could a player the program used to plaster on billboards across the state end up in a video like that?" >> http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-if-clean-mauk-should-come-clean/article_9a463c0c-1b1b-5464-8e26-bf9d5ef536c2.html
mod6: alright, all of V's automated tests are updated & passing. manual tests look good so far. documentation is updated. should be ready for a new bundle by the end of the week.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start. << they have a word for the dudes knowing the results of experiments aforehand, and that name pointedly isn't scientist. ☟︎
Duffer1: ammon's fine, they killed tarptard
mircea_popescu: curious how this theory of "kill ammon the rest will go home" pans out for them
BingoBoingo: Well, for a handful of them
mircea_popescu: o wow, they charged the bundy thing huh ?
danielpbarron: and is "BitMEX" supposed to be confused with MPEx ? or is that just in my head?
adlai didn't realize gas mask was required on this blog, too... should've been tipped off by the word 'miner'
adlai: "Rejecting the Core immature Seg Wit proposal is very important... Therefore the 2MB limit and 90% fork consensus should bring us to a more acceptable fork, and we wish to see consensus on other issues (e.g. increasing unconfirmed tx)."
BingoBoingo: in not-peaceful end USG does have to run money printer for life insurance on its instruments
asciilifeform: so they'll have a not-quite-peaceful one.
Duffer1: wasn't he solo though?
BingoBoingo: Sums to crater in OK city
asciilifeform: just as when tim mcveigh 'declared civil war'
Duffer1: call me when they hit the building
asciilifeform: anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They were apparently in transit hence the small number of rebels accounted for
Duffer1: it was tarpman
asciilifeform: the single corpse suggests that they plugged the fella keeping night watch and picked up the rest in their pajamas.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seemed to be working for the Elder Bundy in Nevada
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja think they had some magical elixir to magic away usg ?
adlai: let us hope for wiser tyrants tomorrow.
adlai: but this is greatly reassuring, it suggests usg will build coke machines regardless of their EV signum, saving worried folks the trouble of proving it one way or the other
BingoBoingo: So feds violently capture the bundy brothers and 5 other people to what exactly? Make the hundred or so other armed militiament raise their guard?
mod6: will update the build script that we've all been using (as referenced by wiki.bitcoin-assets.com) too.
mod6: Update: Testing & Finalizing changes on V [v99996]
BingoBoingo: Oh trilema header returns with more pyramid and afro ☟︎
asciilifeform: the idea is not entirely unbiological, but is about as related to what meat does as the wings of a 747 are to a bird's.
mircea_popescu: so in a field of 3x3 you won't get equal output from all 9 but usually most of the input from just one
asciilifeform: aha but (as far as anybody knows) it does not methodically propagate through whole brain.
mircea_popescu: for instance sight is based on it : neurons that produce less valuable output are inhibited by the ones producing the better output.
asciilifeform: backpropagation is when you train the net by taking the errors and working backwards, 'punishing' the weights which produced it proportionately.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, unless i deeply misunderstand something, backpropagation is botyh found in nature and introduced in nn on an offshot hoped to better mimic.
mircea_popescu: if they were less brissant they would.
mircea_popescu: no, because they explode.
asciilifeform: except that electronics don't extend tendrils (cruddy euro lead-free solder excepted...)
mircea_popescu: the verb, a fila, describes the careful, discreet look a poker player gives his card, as well as transitional and usually undesired processes in diodes.
mircea_popescu: the noun refers directly to an old style glass diode
mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to it. romanian expression to denote that dubious state when a previously intelligent, middle class fellow is going irrecoverably nuts is, "ii fileaza o lampa".
asciilifeform: sorta how airplane became a thing when folks quit trying to flap wings.
asciilifeform: (it is interesting to consider how nn became useful only when it ~entirely~ dropped the pretense of biomimeticism - where in nature do you find backpropagation !!!???)
mircea_popescu: if only neurons were disctrete logic gates. a) i'd feel much better about nature being an idiot ; b) i wouldn't be around to figure that one out anyway.
asciilifeform: anyway it was 1/0 time weight
mircea_popescu: ahahaha this is so not how neurons work.
mircea_popescu: "The McCulloch-Pitts neuron worked by inputting either a 1 or 0 for each of the inputs, where 1 represented true and 0 false. "
adlai: dissos help with depression to some dubious degree. i'm not convinced this'll prove long-term to be more reliable a cure than "ceremony helps with personal growth", modulo shamans
adlai: (/= prevent treat mitigate etc)
asciilifeform: (not sure if this is 'official' method, but it was being tested a few years back, and a reserve grunt confirmed it when i asked)
adlai: given the forum and audience - more words in one ear and out the other
adlai: it's worth noting that towards the end of NCO training we had a lecture (by a shrink/officer hybrid) about the most effective way to prevent PTSD before the T is even Ped, which is, unintuitively, immediate debriefing.
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Tarantino Terminal State ; also known as Gauss' Queasiness in a different field. - http://trilema.com/2016/the-tarantino-terminal-state-also-known-as-gauss-queasiness-in-a-different-field/
mircea_popescu: i had no idea this stuff was even deployed anywhere.
adlai: mircea_popescu: honestly, i don't think further details beyond what i just deeded is relevant for this forum, or any other, except perhaps a court convened in my honor by the relevant mob.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it cites knuth, note, if you wanna know how the gc goes.
srijan: thanks adlai for the info. kakobrekla, would you be able to help with that? ☟︎