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BingoBoingo: mod6: I'd like to get a plan of action up soon with a timeline. As a Roman law country this is a much clearer case than it would be in US court. I do however want estimates from the vampires I am assembling before doing anything definitive.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:18:56 mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?

asciilifeform: mod6: am i parsing this incorrectly ?

mod6: We did settle this. Why are you saying I'm holding you back?

asciilifeform: from prev. thread w/ mod6 , i thought ~this~, if nuffin else, is settled matter 100%.

asciilifeform: i thought mod6 already agreed re 'nomoar, basta'

mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?

BingoBoingo: mod6: Please read http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=JCaO which is the outcomes I am telling the lawyers I want.

BingoBoingo: mod6: Paying the datacenter more money when they are in flagrant breach of contract is immoral, even with my scrotum stitched to broken as hell contract, I am ruling it out.

mod6: Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

mod6: Maybe we can get them to the table and we can negociate something better for us. I guess, worst case, pizarro ends up paying the remaining money.

BingoBoingo: mod6: I am interviewing 3, none so far are asking for money.

mod6: I'd like to see pizarro save some money on the total $11,340 that would normally owe through the end of the contract, since yea, from what I've read in here, seems like they've screwed us over.

mod6: Anyway, as far as litigation and things, basically I'd like to see if we can save some money. How much money? Well, I'm trying to dig up the costs we spend on that thing per month...

asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946750 << wb ossasepia ! btw. and yw diana_coman . service is phree until 1month after : cost sheet posted (i expect mon. 21 oct) and passes rigorous mp_en_viaje crit .

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-30 14:06:42 mod6: Hai all, it's been a pretty intense month - lot going on here. I've left my 9-5 job!

mp_en_viaje: then again i've been thinking this for years+ for many others, and generally tend to think thus, so it;s not exactly a reliable explanation. more like my null hypothesis for some incomprehensible reason.

mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946911 << i thought he was getting himself out of whatever swamp.

mp_en_viaje: and no, i said "dun exist BECAUSE STRUCTURE TOO FINE FOR AVAIL MEDIA"

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i like yours moar, actually, will refer to it henceforth

ossabot: mod6 last seen in #trilema on 2019-10-18 20:55:34: Thanks for the update BingoBoingo. I'm a couple of days behind on logz here; I've been horribly ill for the last 3 days. I'll start catching up, bbl.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 11:47:54 hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946721 << this makes me sad, both 'cause i rather like mod6, and 'cause the comment rings rather true. i hope whatever's bogging him down, stops.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:33:28 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:28:27 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 << there's nothing secret. asciilifeform bitches about being poor, I tell him I have a 100k or so on a prototype run of his (apparently not yet design-complete, so w/e) RSA item, this passes in silence.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946767 << from asciilifeform's homeplanet, similar parable : j00 abramovich invites friend's family to dinner. next day calls him: 'our silver spoons, they are missing, how couldja!' friend:'dafuq yer talking about' a:'thief! i never want to see your face again'. next day, a calls him : 'we, uhm, found those spoons.' him : 'so, let's have dinner next week?' a: 'no! THE STAIN, IT REMAI

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 03:56:17 diana_coman: trinque: you keep silent though, there's nothing concrete coming out of you for months neither here nor on the blog and then you explode with stuff like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946710 ; personally I don't mind it, have fun and all that but this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm eating the criminal code now to make sure I can offer all the potential aggrevating circumstances

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:36:28 trinque: I even told alf I had the cash to do an experimental run of the RSA chip, and he ignored, because why have friends

hanbot_abroad: in other indechipherable languages that shouldn't exist, liszt in hungarian = flour. but buzaretesliszt = grits! and incidentally i learned you can, in fact, make bread outta grits. it's...edible.

lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946755 << got it. In that case I have nothing to add re: hw specs

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:23:06 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946726 << rating isn't a reward. I was using it improperly. and unrate isn't a punishment.

trinque: I agree that there shouldn't be a "the" wallet, too.

trinque: and sure, shall publish. I have never held anyone hostage in my operations of the wallet, and this flows from fundamentals.

trinque: it's weird, I check in, and you say it must mean I'm checking out.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 00:12:52 trinque: I'll genesis the wotcode after this is complete.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: think about this today, i'ma need the answer for the calculation.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: alternatively i'ma supply the machine and roll it into the operating expense, and BingoBoingo does same, for 1/2 of the sharedhosting rev.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At this stage of the game I don't want to deny you the potential income on what could be your high margin offering.

BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946485 << Weighing this some sort of stock warrant, percent of shared hosting revenue, or combination of the two will probably work. It depends on how active you want me to be in administering the shared server, but I don't want to burden you with a fixed commitment up front. Also, I'm not the one baby sitting the rack this time.

BingoBoingo: After the last communication I will take a generous settlement and the copy I have been soliciting lawyers with includes that as the desired outcome.

BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946697 << I'm going to find which of the local prefecturas is responsible for the scene of the crime, assemble supporting docs, etc, and try to have this done by opening of business hours Monday morning

hanbot_abroad: no worries, i'd rather make odd requests specifically when i have 'em, than have 'em anticipated!

hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946721 << this makes me sad, both 'cause i rather like mod6, and 'cause the comment rings rather true. i hope whatever's bogging him down, stops.

mp_en_viaje: trinque, i wish you punkspeed

trinque: maybe somebody wants rent. I used to fuck nothing but tattooed punk chicks with canvases before I became a laptop creature for the money. this isn't such a stretch.

trinque: diana_coman: I don't dispute that.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 05:25:24 diana_coman: I hope it's 50k btc / yr at least .

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946795 << I used the common denomination intentionally.

diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946821 - no, I'm not at all coming to their defense; I am just noting that at least until now you've been practicing avoidance just as much as they did; perhaps in a different flavour, sure.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946779 << gonna go fishing for artists around my fort a bit, see what I turn up, and will write about it soon as I put my blog back on old DC

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:25:09 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946742 << I shall be dedicating more of my time *here* to my hall, on your and mircea_popescu's example, and less time on monastisolipsism "for the archeologists" as asciilifeform puts it so often. I am loudly proclaiming my own stupidity to date, what's not to understand.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946774 << indeed, and exactly what I was driving at. zombie pizarro and the uy-IT-bois are making coy noises that sound like the beginnings of a contract enforcement suit. I'm saying scare them now, head it off, and cut rope.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946767 << bahaha this is some master-level mockery I didn't even grok, so I'm-a just sit here and "yes this is dog"

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 << there's nothing secret. asciilifeform bitches about being poor, I tell him I have a 100k or so on a prototype run of his (apparently not yet design-complete, so w/e) RSA item, this passes in silence.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946742 << I shall be dedicating more of my time *here* to my hall, on your and mircea_popescu's example, and less time on monastisolipsism "for the archeologists" as asciilifeform puts it so often. I am loudly proclaiming my own stupidity to date, what's not to understand.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 02:46:47 lobbes: anyways I'll start it off: you could stand to be more explicit in your communication. As it stands now I'm stuck assuming what you consider my flaws. From my perch I'm *doing more* now than I was in 2017 when you rated me at 2, so it makes little sense to me. And since I truly hate assuming, instead I won't even bother wasting further cycles until I hear more.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946726 << rating isn't a reward. I was using it improperly. and unrate isn't a punishment.

hanbot_abroad: BingoBoingo : i'd like access on UY1 but via this travel key.

mp_en_viaje: ie, YET ANOTHER trilema prophetic piece, the schmuck in question hit the nat'l stage a few years later and then... i dunno, i think he's being searched for by the interpol now, unless they found him ? i

mp_en_viaje: so looking for where the fyuck i explain whence and wherefore i've seen more preteen cunt than ~anyone outside of maybe a few forensic gynecologists, which of course i can't fucking find, i instead found http://trilema.com/2011/cosmin-gusa-este-pericolul/

diana_coman: I hope it's 50k btc / yr at least .

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38 trinque: let it be plain that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want to hear another dipshit that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.

mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946721 << i don't understand what this means, gramatically. is it "makes those sounds which he thinks noble, but without any actual real anything to go with them" ?

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:26:47 trinque: oh and by the way, "making them sweat it" is not maximum pressure. it's avoidance behavior, the same as "tomorrow I'll be sober/file police report/make a 'conversion engine'" whatever the fuck.

diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946758 - myeah, I keep forgetting to put that longlines script in autorun on new setups.

mp_en_viaje: yes, when the party was now in #trilema, something nobody had even heard of, everyone could recognize it, on the basis of "mp saying so", but that basis was built in turn, out of other things. it's a fully dynamic thing, you can't arbitrarily static-ize "JUST THIS ONE" node and then archimede all over the place, 'by this fixed point i therefore move earth and sky'. there's no fixed point, and no matter which one you choose there

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:12:27 trinque: in my case a chap stole from me, gave to an enemy. I was enraged.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:20:10 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946656 << eh, we're too polite of each other's egos. say, and I'll be glad someone said honestly.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:13:59 trinque: and you know, these are the things friends discuss rather than stotting before eachother playing at greatness. I should hope we are that, and I am disappointed when we aren't.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:12:41 trinque: all I did was piss my money away, and the idiot's still an idiot doing idiot things.

mp_en_viaje: i keep going to sleep in these humongous beds, in these tomb-silent rooms behind half-inch thick blockout curtains, dead tired. and when i wake, it takes three, four passes to even reconceptualize where the fuck i am.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 00:37:48 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946439 << I see no issues with this as long as the bot will have permissions to write files to the 'mp-wp root directory'. I'm not very familiar with the old UY1 mp-wp setup and permissions setup so I couldn't say for sure (I used the rockchip for my bloggin' with piz)

diana_coman: trinque: and no, I won't spend my time "hating back" the silence.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:30:13 trinque: so now, you attack my flaws. I attack yours. and out of that, republic. or nothing, in which case who cares.

diana_coman: trinque: you keep silent though, there's nothing concrete coming out of you for months neither here nor on the blog and then you explode with stuff like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946710 ; personally I don't mind it, have fun and all that but this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; y

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:20:10 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946656 << eh, we're too polite of each other's egos. say, and I'll be glad someone said honestly.

lobbes: speaking of wot cleanup, I may as well cull mine while quiet:

lobbes: point being that if you were explicit from the get-go, then I'd have that much more time to *do something* about any identified flaw, instead of waiting until next week or whenever you decide to return

lobbes: anyways I'll start it off: you could stand to be more explicit in your communication. As it stands now I'm stuck assuming what you consider my flaws. From my perch I'm *doing more* now than I was in 2017 when you rated me at 2, so it makes little sense to me. And since I truly hate assuming, instead I won't even bother wasting further cycles until I hear more.

lobbes: and I do believe the general approach to this is sound; the enemy will not give a shit about one's ego. Best to attack them here

lobbes: trinque: I invite you to attack my flaws, btw. (this is why I stuck around here in the first place; to expose my own weaknesses and grow stronger). What prompts the unrate?

trinque: so now, you attack my flaws. I attack yours. and out of that, republic. or nothing, in which case who cares.

trinque: let it be plain that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want to hear another dipshit that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.

trinque: oh and by the way, "making them sweat it" is not maximum pressure. it's avoidance behavior, the same as "tomorrow I'll be sober/file police report/make a 'conversion engine'" whatever the fuck.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 18:01:55 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946571 - mainly because it was mp_en_viaje & you conversation; and you keep yourself quite private otherwise so I don't really know how much/where from you want any feedback.

trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946656 << eh, we're too polite of each other's egos. say, and I'll be glad someone said honestly.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:30:57 diana_coman: trinque: are you saying that "I watched pizarro failing because they didn't bring people in the wot; so not worth dev the wallet because not enough people in wot" ?

trinque: and you know, these are the things friends discuss rather than stotting before eachother playing at greatness. I should hope we are that, and I am disappointed when we aren't.

trinque: all I did was piss my money away, and the idiot's still an idiot doing idiot things.

trinque: in my case a chap stole from me, gave to an enemy. I was enraged.

trinque: I've tossed 150k+ down this hole, hurt the other guy, great. I can't spend his hurt.

trinque: and let me remind you of something else mp said, that I've lived.

BingoBoingo: I'm going to get some sleep, I suspect others here are better qualified to eyeball this.

BingoBoingo: lobbes: I still gotta write a post for asciilifeform on what a shared hosting stack should look like. It may also be the case that the bot would be better with its own 'dulap' type server. I have not had time to sit down and catch up completely with the conversation surrounding this bot.