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mircea_popescu: the recent debias-otp-plaintext
thing being a splendid if amusing example in
this exact line.
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 23:53:20; asciilifeform: or
that other
thread, which i can't seem
to find, where we spoke of how 'maths wot is not essential for being published, but for even having publishable ideas instead of burning your life on fibonacci sequences or some other solved/irrelevant dead end'
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag you sound like
the health food store people. "drink
this dewormer before you enter"
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag self-directed education always looks like
this.
ascii_butugychag: i always found interesting
the kind of lice and worms
these folks usually walk in with
thestringpuller: remember
though. bitcoin classic is still in beta. and it's chinese new year. and other
things.
ascii_butugychag: where did
the diode fella who came in from
the cold come from ?
mircea_popescu: one day im going
to meet
these people in heaven, or else organise a special safari
to hell, and give
them a piece of my mind.
ascii_butugychag: i suppose
this
then is one of
those 'salvation of
the drowning..' situations.
mircea_popescu: sadly all everyone planted were
turds, but
the field's manure alright
shinohai: I guess it isn't much in
the face of Bitcoin Classic's 100's of nodes "coming soon" but
trying
to do my part.
ascii_butugychag: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu do you know of any working implementations of cramer-shoup other
than
the emacslisp one i linked last week ?
shinohai: I started another node on Friday on my friends server, it is still catching up. But I
think it showed me I need
to upgrade some equipments.
shinohai: Yup BingoBoingo I keep getting connection boots, had
trouble all weekend keeping it online.
nubbins`: ty!
the air was stale, not
to my liking. had
to resurface
shinohai: ;;later
tell mod6 Node caught back up I
think my issue is
the crap box I am running it on. Going
to start shopping for better node hardware I guess.
nubbins`: i need a 3.5mm
TRRS
to 3x RCA cable
nubbins`: no coincidence
that it reappears after yrs
trooly
gribble: Error:
This is not one of
the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'btcde', 'krk', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all'
danielpbarron: i don't always archive links, but i had a feeling someone would be asking about
that noe
mircea_popescu: the irony of
the situation being
that
the soviets weren't nearly as impressed by
the significantly more powerful soviet state.
mircea_popescu: in parts
the reddit-powered "infosec" "community" sounds a lot more like some sort of clinically relevant entomophobia in imminent danger of
taking
the leap into delusional parasitosis.
mircea_popescu: i'd actually very much want
to see
this wunderwaffen where
they put bluetooth in
the optoitem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some sillyness about how some derp prankcalled an unnamed silicon manufacturer, pretended
to be a secret agency so secret not even
the name is known, asked for a spec on an unspecified cpu packaging other
than "it must be just like irl ones" and received a 100k firm bid on
the phone as long as he provides "his ip"
assbot: Logged on 08-02-2016 00:51:02; maqp: you understand
the size of required logic and NSA running best fab in
the world? ;)
assbot: Logged on 08-02-2016 03:00:17; mircea_popescu: phf internet produces necessarily a mixed bag. still,
the guy correctly identified a workable airgap scheme on his own, should count for something.
assbot: Logged on 08-02-2016 02:23:29; phf: for extra lulz paper includes proof of otp perfect secrecy
taken from a coursera cryptography course
punkman: "-hey guys remember <blink>? -Yeah... -I just reimplemented it in our browser, but even cooler. - So where do I
turn
this off now? -Why would you ever want
to
turn
this off?"
BingoBoingo: Anyways
the picuture was found on
the internet wilds, likely shooped by Kim himself
BingoBoingo: What. Preet got a picture. I figured I needed
to get a picture for Kim when he
tested
the new bomb.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dude i just laughed hysterically at
the korean derp on horse pic.
BingoBoingo: It's
things like
these and
the /. comments
that reveal's everyone's
tolerance for anthropology
danielpbarron: he kinda reminds me of
that dude who showed up in #eulora
talking about how
things are done in gaming or whatever
mircea_popescu: phf internet produces necessarily a mixed bag. still,
the guy correctly identified a workable airgap scheme on his own, should count for something.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Ah,
the best fab piece is from 2001. Plenty of
time since
then.
phf: it is also filled with
the kind of
things
that will give asciilifeform a severe
twitch: guy
takes hardware rng, runs it on raspberry pi gpio, whiteness
the result, and
then xors in /dev/urandom. you know, for
the kids!
phf: for extra lulz paper includes proof of otp perfect secrecy
taken from a coursera cryptography course
☟︎ phf: also having read
the paper, i stand by my words
phf: ;;later
tell maqp on a cursory inspection i couldn't figure out how
the protocol decides between otp and cev, how
those are identified on
the wire, etc. is
that up
to
the user?
phf: ;;later
tell maqp if i were you i'd split
tfc.pdf into separate papers. HWRNG, data diode communication,
tfc otp,
tfc cev and "rationale",
the last one
to include all
the superfluous NSA shoutouts
mircea_popescu: i'll just wait for reality
to disprove
their claims instead. heck,
they're still making
the best invisibly-visible aircraft-submarine scooba diving platform, or whatever
that was.
maqp: But like I said, all
the best. It's 3am I'm off. Night everyone!
maqp: The site uses nsa.gov as a source. If you can disprove
their claims, it should make quite a scandal
mircea_popescu: tell you what,
the best korea register has a story about how
that fatass what's his name runs
the best fab in
the world.
mircea_popescu: so you're suspicious
that your mail may be subverted, but you don't suspect pravda might be ?
maqp: you understand
the size of required logic and NSA running best fab in
the world? ;)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you understand
the difference between a gps beacon and some sort of
tiny subvertor
that'd fit inside an optodiode somehow ?
maqp: unless you have
the clearance
maqp: so if you're emplyed by US gov it's illegal
to view it
maqp: Oh,
that picture is classified
Top Secret
maqp: There is absolutely no way
to guarantee delivery against interdiction. So unless
the device uses unbackdoorable components,
then no.
mircea_popescu: anyway : it'd be better, of course, if users made
their own. but users don't make
their own, for many reasons, chief among which
that
they're lazy. do you specifically not want
to market a product ?
mircea_popescu: we can't possibly have a mature discussion about
the silly in
that dpaste.
maqp: Too bad we can't have a mature discussion about
this
maqp: I
think it's more safe if people download manuals from
the network, and
then buy COTS hardware and build data diodes / HWRNG
themselves
maqp: Basically, LEDs and phototransistors might be secure against interdiction attacks, but
the problem is finding a properly functioning pair
maqp: It's a complicated problem. Let me quote an expert on
this
mircea_popescu: you ever
thought about selling i dunno, optic diode kits or something ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally - your
tinfoil suite is not at issue here. and actually
to circle back
to an earlier point :
maqp: phf: Well, when you look at history of
TLS, you'll notice
that modes of operation are not obvious. My approach for
TFC is first of it's kind (at least in FOSS world). My approach on a-b is
to see whether CIA-triad is fulfilled. If my peer can be
tricked into sending messages
to infiltrator / network attack
that changes a single public key etc. all security is lost
mircea_popescu: in fairness, person walks into
the republican capitol.
there's ALL
THIS SHIT. it'd be impossible not
to feel even
the little bit queasy.
phf: maqp:
there's a number of existing cryptographic primitives
that, depending on
the fashions, are combined with each other in various obvious ways. we understand your approach, because it's obvious, and
there similar existing attempts. you find our approach ~confusing~, maybe
there's a hidden point
that you're missing. a
thread model
that you're not quiet grokking.
mircea_popescu: yes,
that's kinda
the point of b-a. it
t-bones with standard * discourse so badly, as you put it.