asciilifeform: i diagnose a severe, possibly life-threatening failure of the imagination...

asciilifeform: and i kept waiting, waiting for that paragraph

asciilifeform: normally it is at this point when a fella is expected to mutter something about making machines from discrete transistors or ttl

asciilifeform: the man is intelligent, but the sheer magnitude of the 'learned helplessness' is astonishing even to me.

asciilifeform: 'But where has all this been exposed as "unfulfilled assumptions" by the academic examination of cryptography? Where is their "proof" now?' >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8475 etc

asciilifeform: mic change, which only then becomes a secure basis for ciphering. We see none of that. None' << >> 'heavier than air flight requires an engine that is like our steam plant but weighs no more than 100kg. this cannot exist'

asciilifeform: 'If we accept the need for "hardware" encryption, we can talk about somehow originating a "pristine hardware system" to run it. But that also means maintaining a pristine (largely static) development system to build it.This, in a web environment designed to cause dynamic change and incidentally transport malware. That seems unlikely, but even if that worked, it means ending up with a cipher system which never allows algorith

asciilifeform: 'One example of the larger problem is that virtually all modern ciphering occurs on a general purpose computer. Our overall model of computation, upon which correctness in ciphering rests, does not include malware. ... [lengthy discussion of irrelevant crud assuming reader uses winbl0wz snipped]'

asciilifeform: 'The Rosenbergs were traitors who damaged worldwide security and got what they deserved' << mega-l0l

asciilifeform: where he discussed the utter inability of, e.g., physicists, to properly confront professional flimflam artists

asciilifeform: 'Natural law can be complex and confusing, but not deliberately deceptive, so it is not surprising that techniques refined for understanding nature do not well address the cryptographic contest.' << this point is originally due to j. randi

asciilifeform: it is like asking for a quantity smaller than 0.

asciilifeform: but this is still idiocy, because otp is the ~definitional~ strong cipher. it is provably ludicrous to ask for a cipher in any sense whatsoever stronger than otp.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'otp failed' part is idiocy

asciilifeform: ah this yes

asciilifeform: more than horse ?

asciilifeform: (i am told that there are places where they can be.. hunted)

asciilifeform: but for some reason nobody rides them

asciilifeform: and even took hold

asciilifeform: interestingly, camel was introduced to the americas in early 19th c

asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu is right, the sheer phantasmagoric disconnect from physical reality in usaschwitz has no analogue anywhere else in known spacetime

asciilifeform: but modern usa is not them.

asciilifeform: i'd like to visit civilization.

asciilifeform: where things such as doctors and accountants exist

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is still thinking like a normal person in some honest non-soviet economy

asciilifeform: 'i thought i had a good job! but that was before i learned, how we'd make 'new and tasty' ! '

asciilifeform: (most of the time, at any rate)

asciilifeform: jurov: i spend most of every day churning out crud that nobody will ~even read~

asciilifeform: l0l this is 3rd week now ?

asciilifeform: aha teach me also.

asciilifeform: btw there is a version that turing discovered everett's device before everett

asciilifeform: so only because mircea_popescu has no key he urgently needs to break ?

asciilifeform: all of the 'stop caring' theory really resolves to it, as i understand

asciilifeform: 'there are mircea_popescus and there are offal, off to the fermentation vats, offal'

asciilifeform: no but i can easily picture where this goes

asciilifeform had not done what most folks think of as 'vacation' since 2011

asciilifeform: so you know what it tastes like and that's it.

asciilifeform: imagine if all the cake you ever got to eat was, say, 20 grams max

asciilifeform: can't imagine what i might possibly want, if had that

asciilifeform: i, for instance, am fixated on free time and escape from workschwitz

asciilifeform: and it does not take a heroic amount of introspection to find oneself int his picture

asciilifeform: more of how the boy might have problems grasping why his parents do anything other than eating cake ☟︎

asciilifeform: but i think i see where mircea_popescu is going, this is the old 'thirsty man thinks he can drink the sea' theorem

asciilifeform: aha but still this involves more housework than walking with weights, i'd imagine ?

asciilifeform: gotta set up household for the pets, etc?

asciilifeform: well sure, there is a certain amount of 'like sledding? like pulling sled too!'

asciilifeform: you do it for some time and then do other thing