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mircea_popescu: mike_c hm
mircea_popescu: dooglus set us straight ?
mircea_popescu: well either i seriously misunderstood this or else you did.
mircea_popescu: but server also has one. his.
mircea_popescu: mike_c that's YOURS
mircea_popescu: cause he is constrained by only having one server secret
mircea_popescu: which then would not work with other players'
mircea_popescu: he'd have to crack yours to make a self-serving secret
mircea_popescu: you can add your own seed to his.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves look in his faq, it's explained there.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot the20year
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so you familiar with how jd does it ?
mircea_popescu: investors is a diff story
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves actually that's a valid approach, mike_c's. i'd just like to explore the provably fair angle, from bettors prespective
mircea_popescu: pankkake yeah a new zooko triangle is emerging
mircea_popescu: playing roughly the role of the salt in a hash
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves there's this user secret.
mircea_popescu: BCB yours or mine ?
mircea_popescu: not from the players.
mircea_popescu: that's actually pf.
mircea_popescu: you can do it like jd does it
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow.
mircea_popescu: notrly. or how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: the provably fair thing will sink fiat gambling, only, they don't know it yet.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: gambling is bad in that it threatens to empower whoever's doing it.
mircea_popescu: missing the final three months ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah, tardstalk meets legalspeak.
mircea_popescu: BCB wait, how's that obviously work ?
mircea_popescu: and to judge by the published trendon shavers proceedings... he apparently (inadvertently ?) destroyed some data
mircea_popescu: anyway, everyone has control of the gox db. it was haxt, remember ?
mircea_popescu: BCB you mean who the mysterious buyer was when vorhees had it delisted ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yw :)
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a users db.
mircea_popescu: BCB uh, the entire sd db is publicly in the ledger.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2014#571863 etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you know, this was not a secret in any sense.
mircea_popescu: BCB indeed.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i think it's different people
mircea_popescu: 400mn seems such pocket change
mircea_popescu: funny thing being... where were all those muppets when btc was 1.2k and mpex was mkt value over 1bn
mircea_popescu: "I got my 0.01 btc investment out of neobee long ago."
mircea_popescu: im a total lambchop fan.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mpex-co-the-scientology-of-bitcoin-finance.198675/page-18#post-5898499
mircea_popescu: i like how you keep them fires stoked lol
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: "Like you say, this has manipulation written all over it. That is the only way to make it work - there is no chance a freely operating system like this would make it past a few weeks before going bankrupt. "
mircea_popescu: o wow, that still going ?
mircea_popescu: the who ?
mircea_popescu: better have women hunters than train cats.
mircea_popescu: exaclty is.
mircea_popescu: getting all the newspapers in a lifetime doesn't take an aggregate of 5 years.
mircea_popescu: this is like the people who spend 5 years to train their dog to get their newspaper.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: they spend their day horseriding and shooting everything that moves.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ideally, esp in patagonia (or mongolia) we could have a specially trained pack of hunting women.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-99405 < i must say i fucking love that response.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler yea
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know. i think it's a neat idea. if i ever make a tech park, that's how i'll run it.
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: (Still with a tone) He is. You don’t know what I’m doin’ here.
mircea_popescu: JERRY: (Scolding) George. (To salesman) Sorry, we’re just waiting for David Puddy.
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: (Threatening) Hold it! One more step and we’re walkin’!
mircea_popescu: SALESMAN: Can I help you with something?
mircea_popescu: (A salesman approaches)
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: Look at these salesmen. The only thing these guys fear is the walk-out. No matter what they say, you say, "I’ll walk out of here right now!"
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yea but what did you say to get that email ? "hello" ?
mircea_popescu: Dimsler some make their way here and then contribute significantly.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what'd you say ?
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe among them are some who can add value, and will.
mircea_popescu: well what's the problem wit hthat ?
mircea_popescu: why's this surprising to anyone (other than those derps) is beyond me.
mircea_popescu: or, for that matter, in the horizon of the conference derps.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler apparently nowhere in your horizon.
mircea_popescu: petty crime is perhaps (with the exception of an academic career) the worst fucking choice someone could make
mircea_popescu: criminals don't matter here for the same reason they don't matter irl. if they had any sense they'd find better use of their time.
mircea_popescu: and then... silkroad went away... nobody noticed.
mircea_popescu: oh, bitcoin is based on silkroad.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the same sort of bullshit was being peddled about silkroad
mircea_popescu: anecdotes are worth about five satoshi each. get a million, maybe it matters.
mircea_popescu: that's such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: eh get out.
mircea_popescu: the same people who do yachting competitions.
mircea_popescu: the first people to use cars were the rich.
mircea_popescu: that's not true in any sense.
mircea_popescu: hm ?
mircea_popescu: forum "investors" keep investing, fiat consumers keep fiating... it's uncanny.
mircea_popescu: it's very strange, the same sort of partial thinking keeps people inside the grinder in, on both ends.
mircea_popescu: !up Anon29486307
mircea_popescu: Dimsler i have people following me on twitter that still derp about how it's a scam or w/e.
mircea_popescu: because they've also been scammed to the max.
mircea_popescu: it's like 2.5 a liter, which comes to about 10 a gallon
mircea_popescu: jurov sorry i meant gallon
mircea_popescu: but yet they drive. it's beyond me.
mircea_popescu: work 8 hours to the liter ? wtf.
mircea_popescu: yet there's people driving around. how the fuck, their min wage is 1.25 an hour
mircea_popescu: gas right ? it's like 10 dollars a liter.
mircea_popescu: me either.
mircea_popescu: it's crazy.