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mircea_popescu: <punkman> so come up with something stupid to sell to MIT people, get almost all of that $500k of btc <<
mircea_popescu: never have.
mircea_popescu: pankkake i could too, via email, in wp of 2008
mircea_popescu: but tbh i think wp only became broken after 2.x
mircea_popescu: mediawiki is god awful yes
mircea_popescu: never.
mircea_popescu: no nm 2.7
mircea_popescu: pankkake trilema runs wp 1.8 i think ?
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> I really want to start a movement of anti-web things << join the queue!
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> pankkake: I wouldn't consider WP a lesser evil than Disqus << why not ?!
mircea_popescu: !up owner
mircea_popescu: how did that work in the end ?
mircea_popescu: a he got himself into the wot huh. cool.
mircea_popescu: what'd he do
mircea_popescu: possibly worst sort of biz idea that, devlin advocacy.
mircea_popescu: ty
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what ws your blog again ?
mircea_popescu: but if someone judges it unnecessary, well, they're not stuck with the rest.
mircea_popescu: seemsmore reasonable this way. if someone judges it prudent to wait a month, or six or sixty, they can
mircea_popescu: yes
mircea_popescu: nobody has to buy it tho.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah, it'll sell after the first report.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller lol
mircea_popescu: or something
mircea_popescu: or close for an open beta
mircea_popescu: i think will open for a close beta soonish
mircea_popescu: was demo'd at conference
mircea_popescu: pankkake mike_c is working on something based on that principle
mircea_popescu: pankkake true.
mircea_popescu: it may, of course, steal from investors (ie, if the player and the casino collude)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so as constructed, jd can't steal from players.
mircea_popescu: pankkake that's open to miner manipulation rly.
mircea_popescu: these two have the same effect.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: except if you ask it to show it to you, then it always does.
mircea_popescu: and you can change your hash but server is not allowed to change its
mircea_popescu: but you can see the old hash at will.
mircea_popescu: but you're saying server has a hash for each guy rather than one for all guys
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: RIGHT! so there are in fact two.
mircea_popescu: how ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves why ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c you're confusing me.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that may be impossible.
mircea_popescu: i only eval'd it once, when he was starting up.
mircea_popescu: maybe he changed the system ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c hm
mircea_popescu: dooglus set us straight ?
mircea_popescu: well either i seriously misunderstood this or else you did.
mircea_popescu: but server also has one. his.
mircea_popescu: mike_c that's YOURS
mircea_popescu: cause he is constrained by only having one server secret
mircea_popescu: which then would not work with other players'
mircea_popescu: he'd have to crack yours to make a self-serving secret
mircea_popescu: you can add your own seed to his.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves look in his faq, it's explained there.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot the20year
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so you familiar with how jd does it ?
mircea_popescu: investors is a diff story
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves actually that's a valid approach, mike_c's. i'd just like to explore the provably fair angle, from bettors prespective
mircea_popescu: pankkake yeah a new zooko triangle is emerging
mircea_popescu: playing roughly the role of the salt in a hash
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves there's this user secret.
mircea_popescu: BCB yours or mine ?
mircea_popescu: not from the players.
mircea_popescu: that's actually pf.
mircea_popescu: you can do it like jd does it
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow.
mircea_popescu: notrly. or how do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: the provably fair thing will sink fiat gambling, only, they don't know it yet.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: gambling is bad in that it threatens to empower whoever's doing it.
mircea_popescu: missing the final three months ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah, tardstalk meets legalspeak.
mircea_popescu: BCB wait, how's that obviously work ?
mircea_popescu: and to judge by the published trendon shavers proceedings... he apparently (inadvertently ?) destroyed some data
mircea_popescu: anyway, everyone has control of the gox db. it was haxt, remember ?
mircea_popescu: BCB you mean who the mysterious buyer was when vorhees had it delisted ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yw :)
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a users db.
mircea_popescu: BCB uh, the entire sd db is publicly in the ledger.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2014#571863 etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you know, this was not a secret in any sense.
mircea_popescu: BCB indeed.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i think it's different people
mircea_popescu: 400mn seems such pocket change
mircea_popescu: funny thing being... where were all those muppets when btc was 1.2k and mpex was mkt value over 1bn
mircea_popescu: "I got my 0.01 btc investment out of neobee long ago."
mircea_popescu: im a total lambchop fan.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mpex-co-the-scientology-of-bitcoin-finance.198675/page-18#post-5898499
mircea_popescu: i like how you keep them fires stoked lol
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: "Like you say, this has manipulation written all over it. That is the only way to make it work - there is no chance a freely operating system like this would make it past a few weeks before going bankrupt. "
mircea_popescu: o wow, that still going ?
mircea_popescu: the who ?
mircea_popescu: better have women hunters than train cats.
mircea_popescu: exaclty is.
mircea_popescu: getting all the newspapers in a lifetime doesn't take an aggregate of 5 years.
mircea_popescu: this is like the people who spend 5 years to train their dog to get their newspaper.