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mircea_popescu: im sure you can.
mircea_popescu: i suppose one could imagine this far away island where the greatest delicacy is pubic hair lice
mircea_popescu: ew
mircea_popescu: with this large amount of good quality lulz we should see an uptick in price
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: aaahahahaha
mircea_popescu: "Hello mrWDunne please advised real offer is mine hassan wants to only delouse you."
mircea_popescu: !up phish
mircea_popescu: pankkake like another forum ?
mircea_popescu: your site, %blogtitle%
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-mark-cuban/#comment-99465
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-first-trading-day-of-fmpif/
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: lol any extraditions yet ?
mircea_popescu waves
mircea_popescu: my guess would be goon lurkers here ?
mircea_popescu: jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591901.0
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: and then... o wait. it's... me ? win.
mircea_popescu: then im all like... o wow check out how fucking smart this dood is!
mircea_popescu: bounce no because most of the time i don't remember what i said
mircea_popescu: note tho that they're my shares, if i sell them under nav... well... tough tits for me.
mircea_popescu: notrly.
mircea_popescu: i have, for like... i dunno, a year or two ? BILLIONZ OF LINES!11
mircea_popescu: hey, i read these logs
mircea_popescu: the current value is a best guess value.
mircea_popescu: and it may jump further up, according to what experience will indicate
mircea_popescu: mike_c well that's the one good argument for increasing the berth there, actually. 1.5% may be too narrow,
mircea_popescu: mpif may definitely end up with a large cash balance, but this would be a negative commentary on the btc financial space, rather than on mpif itself.
mircea_popescu: if nav is 220 next month, the price goes up for the shares too
mircea_popescu: mike_c no, because these are per month.
mircea_popescu: cash matters.
mircea_popescu: apple for that matter carries billions in cash, so does berkshire, so do all powerful corps.
mircea_popescu: at any rate, nobody went broke holding btc.
mircea_popescu: so yes, it will carry cash. not that much, but in fact just about what's usually considered prudent in fiat.
mircea_popescu: except this example is 1 pc and mpif has 5, and this example has a shock 15% month, which mpif prolly won't ever have.
mircea_popescu: for model B, this is a 20 satoshi per share loss.
mircea_popescu: for model A, this is a 115 satoshi/share loss.
mircea_popescu: at t=2, the sole manager that seemed to have been making a 15% gain runs off with the whole shebang.
mircea_popescu: on model B, the spot gets stuck at 101.5 while the capital of the fund swells to 50 btc, of which 10 allocated to pc1.
mircea_popescu: now, on model A, the spot tracs this, and the share trades at 115
mircea_popescu: at t=1, the sole manager seems to be making a 15% gain
mircea_popescu: suppose vpif has 1 pc, with 10 btc. at t=0, the share goes for 100 satoshi.
mircea_popescu: jurov you can, yes. fee is what, .2%
mircea_popescu: let me make an illustrative working model by what i mean by the size breeds security thing.
mircea_popescu: jurov : under 21103 and over 21528
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 21315 / 1.01
mircea_popescu: lol. ok
mircea_popescu: jurov : under 21101 and over 21528
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 21315*1.01
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 21315 1.01
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 21315 *.99
mircea_popescu: mike_c not imo.
mircea_popescu: what fucking sense does that make ?
mircea_popescu: now, anyone trying to get into this fund would first have to take a 45% haircut, as mp tax.
mircea_popescu: suppose instead of 1.5% (or the initial .88%) i charged 45%.
mircea_popescu: exactly :)
mircea_popescu: well that's why i say
mircea_popescu: so i guess your objection reduces to this not being a high risk/high reward enough for you thing ?
mircea_popescu: however, this diversification also breeds security.
mircea_popescu: sure, in principle the later investments would attract lower margins than the earlier investments.
mircea_popescu: but listen. this is an investment fund. its business is to invest. if it does well, it would naturally receive more cash to invest.
mircea_popescu: mike_c how does one follow from the other ?
mircea_popescu: aty
mircea_popescu: and weight ~= safety.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: that's 1.5% compounded monthly.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.015**(12*20)
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: roughly.
mircea_popescu: Cash BTC deposited in http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-april-2014-statement/
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves into the f.mpif's cash position.
mircea_popescu: mike_c 1.5%
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves because they're issued at nav.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2014#652833 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mike_c i won't stop issuing shares.
mircea_popescu: (could have given you .5% but imo too narrow, so)
mircea_popescu: gave you some space.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes, went out of your bounds. i was at .88% before i enacted the 1% collar for you.
mircea_popescu: someone else wants to pay over 15 pips or why do i issue more shares ?
mircea_popescu: ok.
mircea_popescu: he can't overpay by 6%, because i sell to him at 101.5
mircea_popescu: to him.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ok.
mircea_popescu: 213.2whatevetiwas
mircea_popescu: no, i deposited nav to get another mn shares.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't do any, their job.
mircea_popescu: first off, why would this thing "make money" other than through nav going up ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c there are some things conflated in there i don't follow.
mircea_popescu: anyway, mike_c et all : his job is not so bad, he gets a guaranteed 2.5% every time he flips.
mircea_popescu: $depth f.mpif
mircea_popescu: alrighty, i'll give you a pass on what looks like a ~0.5% loss so far for may :p
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 213*1.02
mircea_popescu: i guess this was too far inzone.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 215/213.15
mircea_popescu: i won't issue shares unless we're looking at a 105% or something like that.
mircea_popescu: that way you can always be overbid by users, should they want to.
mircea_popescu: suppose nav is 1. you don't bid over .99 and don't ask under 1.01
mircea_popescu: jurov do you follow the logic of this ?