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mircea_popescu: if no wot identity is involved, the thing's irrelevant economically, might as well be two somalis trading cowries
mircea_popescu: all purported economic activity that's not taking place between wot registered identities is deffective. if only one wot identity is involved, the whoile thing is in no substantial manner different from the medieval relations between peon and his lord.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves are people who will sell you a house/car but not sign a contract also part of the real estate/car markets
mircea_popescu: next youi're going to claim the us is part of human culture, just, not the elitist part of it.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is like saying women that don't have sex are part of the dating market, just not my elitist subsection of it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so then... they aren't part of the economy. lol
mircea_popescu: force them to wot as part and parcel of doing business with them, know that their refusal to comply means they're scammers.
mircea_popescu: anyweay davout's argument is souind : if they had no wot they were not part of the economy in the first place.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem : clueless people are trying to mix forum into pg.
mircea_popescu: but you askled "since when", when in point of fact it was always the case. only recently have courst strayed into this heresy that they have authority to judge over unwilling participants.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> you see, if the WoT is a punishment gazette, since when do criminals register for such themselves? << since forever. read up on "peine forte et dure" ?
mircea_popescu: <davout> ThickAsThieves: i wonder if that's really a good idea << i don't think it is.
mircea_popescu ponders that DrewPistols would be a pretty decent stripper name.
mircea_popescu: indeed, adding a history of past ratings would be a good idea.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve so in those terms, it's valuable for enforcing the point 2, permanence.
mircea_popescu: DrewHorne kinda what we're trying to work out atm. there is a wiki, but not too fleshed out yet
mircea_popescu: something not necessarily covered by wot anyway yet, as some people rated each other in 2011 might have known each other since 2001
mircea_popescu: pankkake course the canonical way around is to just ask the rater. he can tell you how far back the relationship goes
mircea_popescu: like above the history phd bit. obviously useless to you, as youre no historian by trade, but we are a diverse bucnh with diverse needs.
mircea_popescu: DrewHorne you can read the logs of this chan. ocasionally things pop up for people to do.
mircea_popescu: pankkake it does have a chilling effect, because sometimes i'm hesitant to update very old ratings, and just let them be "good enough"
mircea_popescu: so either gribble actually keeps track of the oldest rating oyu ever got and someone modified their oct 15th rating
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that rated since is about my rating, not generally.
mircea_popescu: DrewHorne anyway, a good step forward, now people could rate you.
mircea_popescu: DrewHorne im really not interested in carrying private conversations. we don't know each other, we have nothing private to discuss.
mircea_popescu: at the very most tyhe management could solicit nonbinding opinions from holders, there's a mpex mechanism for doing this embedded in some listing agreements,
mircea_popescu: because you couldn't afford to let a physical tractor go to waste, as a society.
mircea_popescu: chetty exactly. but in the old days of imperfect economy, people actually had to have a backchannel, and take over the tractor or whatever it was
mircea_popescu: history has shown that their opinions weren't worth holding.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you read the original thread of the sdice listing, the same sort of derpage was raised by the losers vocal there. amoing a pile of other "good and considered" reasons not to invest.
mircea_popescu: immaterial means of production and geographically dispersed agents reduces the corporate voting to meaninglessness. not that it worked too well pre bitcoin, either.
mircea_popescu: voting rights made sense in the old days of geographically fixed agents and material means of production. that situation changed.
mircea_popescu: voting rights are nonsense in bitcoin anyway. what the fuck are they going to do, get a confederatied majority and... what, oust you ? take over ?
mircea_popescu: at any rate it'd be proper scholarship, rather than the current courtois-type nonsense.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if any of you is fucking a history major on the side... maybe it's time for her phd.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that there could be a better one, should get magna.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this could be a phd thesis for a history student in a good uni.
mircea_popescu: the lack of which is the worst problem of history, because you never quite know for sure just how important this particular bit of nonsense really is
mircea_popescu: yeah. unlike a historian, it has the invaluable advantage that people present in the deepest strata of history are still around today, and they can say either "ah, that one point is fucking stupid, forget it" or the contrary.
mircea_popescu: it's speaking to contemporaries not to people long gone
mircea_popescu: cool. so then it should build context from present day through archeological remains,
mircea_popescu: you're not trying tro get me to pay for access in order to shake my head
mircea_popescu: this thing you're making, it's intended to satisfy the needs of noobs, right ?
mircea_popescu: they would be building context in the way of the noob, rather than i nthe way of the sacred cow.
mircea_popescu: well so in that case don't oppose what he said to me eh!
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you didn't get shot down ? i supported it, what did you think "fluffypony on the topic of how good design begets business." meant ?
mircea_popescu: i tell you it's not my mood, that'd be like saying the girl was horny. no, no, it was in your approach, not in her horniness i tell you! he somehow, improbably, managed to whistle into the modem.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: just readin logs atm, looks like drew came by with quite the edm business proposal. mp's flowers must have put him in a fabulous mood because he's !downed newcomers for less << someone should sometime do a comparative study of how noobs fare in here.
mircea_popescu: the magnificent assets have any suggestion as to what i should say to the redditard next ?