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asciilifeform: nubbins`: i don't want any of my btc to feed usg.
nubbins`: too useful to pay rent or w/e
nubbins`: you need metal to convert btc-usd without notice
asciilifeform: would be again stuck with what useful thing to trade it for.
nubbins`: well that excludes ME from selling it to you
nubbins`: asciilifeform there's always bullion
thestringpuller: going to 0 as in game over? or going to 0 for a minute then we'll be back to $X price.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: because it's going to 0?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i won't sell for fiat because it gets taxed.
nubbins`: ^ my latest tome
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, as far as i can tell, is right, and there is nothing to buy.
thestringpuller: only good thing to sell BTC for is fiat, but whats the point in that if your income 99% fiat
mircea_popescu: used to be, at any rate.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's a good place to store money when it's not in use...
asciilifeform: because that was my very puzzle!
nubbins`: asciilifeform that's what i've been trying to ask you and you've been steadfastly not answering
mircea_popescu: so, "buy something useful with bitcoin - must be physical item or service that i can use"
asciilifeform: dont want to see usd.
mircea_popescu: maybe specifying the problem you're trying to solve would help.
asciilifeform: dun need these for anything. i don't even own iron that could run eulora.
mircea_popescu: wait, the criteria is "buy something useful with bitcoin" && "seller may not give btc to usd" ?
nubbins`: no, problem is we don't know what you need because you're not telling us
mircea_popescu: but - eulora copper. not only exact answer, but provably the only one.
asciilifeform: problem is that nobody's selling anything i need.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:18:04; mircea_popescu: 18<nubbins`> buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd. << he got the exact answer, but wouldn't take it, because reasons.
nubbins`: for whom does the night paint the dawn?
asciilifeform: 'On what grave, is carved the name of the self you lost?' -- from nubbins` link
thestringpuller: it has a cloud on one side and scissors in in the desert on another side
danielpbarron: nubbins`, how much to send me a couple of those shirts :)
mircea_popescu: 18<nubbins`> buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd. << he got the exact answer, but wouldn't take it, because reasons. ☟︎
nubbins`: thestringpuller can't quite recall the print
nubbins`: FTR i've been teaching myself hardcover bookbinding and TRB.book would have been gorgeous
thestringpuller: i eneded up framing that print you gave me as bonus when I ordered shirts
nubbins`: our latest tome
mircea_popescu: i think he does!
nubbins`: flat stock is something people put on their wall & admire -- see "Imagine a game" bitcoin posters
mircea_popescu: i see what you did thar*
nubbins`: fucking up a t-shirt print = $6 wasted. fucking up a poster = $0.70 wasted
thestringpuller: nubbins`: oh well cool. i guess I'll just wait for the big 3-0
mircea_popescu: see what you did that
nubbins`: mircea_popescu we've been moving the biz away from textile printing and towards paper/fine art printing
nubbins`: thestringpuller you're technically still a child at 28
mircea_popescu: oh, well then really - this is above industry average.
nubbins`: i think something around 20-30% of them left my hands
thestringpuller just turned 28
mircea_popescu: ah, even better then!
nubbins`: was not insignificant for our fledgling business at the time
nubbins`: understood. thanks for the work!
mircea_popescu: thanks for your kind help in the matter - feel free to distribute the remaining tees to whosoever you feel like and that'd be that.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` in honesty at this point i see ~0 chance we'll deliver in any sort of human timeframe, or for that matter have any use for 3 to 25 year old tshirts.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform had nfi >> you recall, we made a t-shirt design, he agreed to print for a very nice rate, ended up storing them for us.
asciilifeform: there is literally nothing to buy
nubbins`: guess you'll have to un-usefully burn it
nubbins`: buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd.
asciilifeform: well question was re how to usefully burn it.
nubbins`: send it to 1bitcoineater.
nubbins`: how else to ensure?
nubbins`: well your other option is to keep it
asciilifeform: didja miss the part where i refuse to give ANY of it to usg?
nubbins`: what i'm asking is if toilet paper is a good suggestion, or if a motorcycle is a good suggestion
nubbins`: anguished wails of those who have lost hope
nubbins`: lords tossing themselves from the parapets
nubbins`: yeah, more or less. everyone QQing about the fyootur
asciilifeform: nubbins`: didja catch up with the log?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 02:44:42; *: asciilifeform all ears for ideas re: on what to blow a modest (~10kusd) worth of coin while it is still worth something.
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423412 << just so i can suggest appropriately, this is money you don't need/want for practical use? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i mean, if nubbins` thinks that mircea_popescu runs an arse-mouth system and buys own subscriptions, what does he pay divs from?
nubbins`: easily actually a thing that's real too
nubbins`: i "forgot" those
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 12:59:16; nubbins`: or did you guys just assume that bitbet divs and a vidya game were enough to keep it all together
nubbins`: or did you guys just assume that bitbet divs and a vidya game were enough to keep it all together ☟︎
nubbins`: asciilifeform i thought it was fairly obvious that MP had been divesting since he lost his shirt w/ MPOE? ☟︎☟︎
nubbins` wanders off to read
nubbins`: alf left the straight path to live the life of the boheme?
nubbins`: in retrospect, prob pulled the trigger a bit early on ordering tees
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the current lease on floor space expires April 30 2016; property will be considered to be abandoned if arrangements not made by that point
nubbins`: speaking of work, i have a large number of S.NSA t-shirts still taking up space in my basement
nubbins`: it's a "work machine", so i'm more concerned about how it runs illustrator than how well it protects the private keys that aren't on it
nubbins`: but it was beterrn that and the 6502 for a while
nubbins`: sadly, i went for the modern comforts of an i5 (i know)
nubbins`: somewhat inexplicably, first time i've done so in my 34 years
asciilifeform: 'got any moar of that sole known antiinflatronium you don't want? we'll buy!'
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423477 << the way to kill pools is to hash he WHOLE BLOCK, rather than header. but as mircea_popescu pointed out, it is not merely ~pools~ that are colluding, but actual ~miners~, so it solves nothing. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 07:26:07; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how would you limit the number of addresses/coinbases in a pow-for-addr scheme?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423470 << trivially: an addr is valid if a coinbase some time fed it, and not otherwise. (in this hypothetical alt) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i think that the above change would necessitate a new genesis block, as i suspect that difficulty is far too high for the hardware capable of hashing as described to generate a single block in any sort of reasonable time
ben_vulpes: if it's possible to confirm that the contents of `sig` corresponded to the *single* `addr` to which the block subsidy+fees (eg first transaction) pays out, i believe that the addidional `addr` header field could be omitted.
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QWvD4x )
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#comment-116712 << asciilifeform, mod6, jurov, PeterL, mircea_popescu, kakobrekla (in moderation, hopefully passes the bowels of mircea_popescu's wprexen soon)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how would you limit the number of addresses/coinbases in a pow-for-addr scheme? ☟︎
assbot: Leaked Voicemails Show Donald Trump-Clinton Cozy With Liberal Media | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Srkqyc )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/03/leaked-voicemails-show-donald-trump-clinton-cozy-with-liberal-media/#comment-47903 << Much insult to MP
assbot: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SrkpdO )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#comment-116709 << lose a kingdom, gain another, or how did that go.
asciilifeform: i used it when i went to c2 ( though i paid with usd. )
gernika: asciilifeform: cheapair.com seems to still take btc. I bought some tix to europe from them with btc a few years ago.
asciilifeform: (believe, i tried)
asciilifeform: l0l pet could not even be persuaded to go to the funfest c3!
asciilifeform: the one thing i cannot buy with whatever.