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asciilifeform: this is 1960s tech.
mircea_popescu: you can break bitcoin w/o breaking the internet, which is a problem.
mircea_popescu: right. so now, internet overlord decides to rst all conns that are trying to move block-sized items back and forth.
asciilifeform: (they - to theirs. etc)
asciilifeform: otherwise you talk to the other folks in your terror cell.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think about it - decentralized, but no strangers ? how's this design supposed to even go ?
nubbins`: first general-issue mask for british troops
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the venetians had gas masks.
nubbins`: do a 180 and see the park where nubs plays frisbee and smokes dope
asciilifeform: the conn rst thing is because we're talking to strangerz and using idiot unauthed plaintext.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:56:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423491 << hashing whole block significantly weakens the protocol against attacks from non-bitcoin actors however. think your conn rst sufferences on a large scale.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423721 << can hear more about this plox ?? ☝︎
nubbins`: (born 1879 st. john's twodogland, natch)
nubbins`: nothing particular about cluny macpherson until he invented the gas mask
asciilifeform: l0l you'd have to free the other 10 mil rapemeat caste folk.
thestringpuller: should be making "free asciilifeform" t-shirts and protesting the white house
nubbins`: and smth tells me alf would find it vulgar to quantify these vagaries
nubbins`: without actual dollar figures these arguments are absolute fucking wankery
thestringpuller: you can launder up to $1200 at a time no questions asked
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: if your rent is can be paid by money order, you can take bag of benjies and buy multiple US postal mondey orders...
asciilifeform: oh and if usg decides that you did not pay enough, you get charged double-triple post-facto.
nubbins`: we do here too, and capital gains are taxed at 11% across the board
nubbins` would get to give 1k to revenue canada if liquidating 10k of coin
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: we have, but I think you overestimate the facilities required to execute such a plan...
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: could've sworn we had this thread.
nubbins`: wait, btc is money in the USA, isn't it?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: why do you not launder money as to avoid taxation?
asciilifeform: fuck that.
asciilifeform: the way it works is that if i sold, e.g., 10k of coin, i get to give 4k to usg immediately.
nubbins`: prob similar to how it works here in canadia
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 14:01:07; nubbins`: alf is simultaneously saying he can't afford to get a box of shirts shipped to him, AND that he can't find anything to spend $10k bezzlars worth of btc on?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423732 << does nubbins` know how taxation works in usaschwitz ? ☝︎
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: slavery is slavery, however i must admit house niggas were treated better than the outdoor field niggas.
nubbins`: could blank out the mortgage tomorrow, but dat capital gains tax.
nubbins`: 's house is halfway there
asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc we had this thread. you paid off the house.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i must wonder if you would still agree if you knew what i do to pay for the 'get to'.
nubbins`: a temporary situation, no longer required
thestringpuller: you get to eat wholesome meals instead of chitlins
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: it's better to be a light skinned house-boy than to work the fields...
nubbins`: more realistic is that you're just fucking terrible with money
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: the very poverty consists in the sort of things i do to ~not~ live 'in the projects', with roommates a la nubbins`, or eat recycled food, etc.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: being a slave, it would be stepping outside of my competence to attempt the use of any other kind of definition.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you should move to projects for a year an live like the actual slave negros.
asciilifeform: i don't take it with them.
asciilifeform: how the hell would i know what dope my neighbours take ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: do you live off food stamps, or drink 40's on the stoop?
nubbins` flatly doesn't believe alf is "poor" in any reasonable sense of the word
mircea_popescu: usually evidenced by having the capital in the first place.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah well for living off capital it helps having capital, and it helps even more (say H(N^2)) to be the kind of spirit that is helped by capital
nubbins`: alf, i don't think you quite understand how few shittier countries exist than the one you're in
asciilifeform: this is referred to as 'breaking out of gravity well'
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:44:29; nubbins`: he can't just move out of DC, he has to do it on a carrier fleet
assbot: TIFU by inquiring to Apple about iButt : tifu ... ( http://bit.ly/1oZQddZ )
asciilifeform: which then
mircea_popescu: will the thing be buildable by others on a v process.
mircea_popescu: not the substance of the q as i see it.
asciilifeform: (i would even use antifuse roms but they are NOT SOLD)
asciilifeform: so it's, at least without laboratory instruments, a once-per-device thing.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:48:35; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-january-february-2016-joint-statement/#comment-116714 << was this discussed ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423707 << definitely discussed. there is deliberately no simple way of refirmwaring the thing. ☝︎
nubbins`: just this upcoming one?!
nubbins`: node warfare sort of is a thing already
nubbins`: just imagine how interesting it'll be in two years
thestringpuller: i figured node warfare would become a thing.
nubbins`: ever since the nudie scans at the airports were deemed non-optional
mircea_popescu: you could airdrop them from orbit on alf's house. seeing how he lives next door to obama's rural cousin #5460580, prolly give norad a good wake-up.
nubbins`: or just the outer space one
nubbins`: does virgin airlines take btc?
nubbins`: in fairness, i'd ship the box via canada post.
nubbins`: alf is simultaneously saying he can't afford to get a box of shirts shipped to him, AND that he can't find anything to spend $10k bezzlars worth of btc on? ☟︎
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu>http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423517 << if you actually want them you prolly can have them for the cost of sheeping. <<< he's right ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and yes, i can readily credit myself retrospectively with saving bitcoin through that, but why even bother.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 12:58:05; nubbins`: asciilifeform i thought it was fairly obvious that MP had been divesting since he lost his shirt w/ MPOE?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423536 << obvious or not, not really the case. last i did something like this was when i said "100 is good enough" and people insisted on running up to 1k. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423517 << if you actually want them you prolly can have them for the cost of sheeping. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 10:43:36; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423477 << the way to kill pools is to hash he WHOLE BLOCK, rather than header. but as mircea_popescu pointed out, it is not merely ~pools~ that are colluding, but actual ~miners~, so it solves nothing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423491 << hashing whole block significantly weakens the protocol against attacks from non-bitcoin actors however. think your conn rst sufferences on a large scale. ☝︎☟︎
nubbins`: “I took LSD when I was working on ‘Return of the Jedi,’ and it’s fine. It was, like, very calming. And so I decided to go back to work. When I walked into the blue-screen stage, it was like, ‘Ahhh.’ I took way too much,”
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423469 << this is a while out yet. ☝︎
nubbins`: but this quote is ok
assbot: Oscar-Winning Star Wars Animator Admits He Took LSD While Working On Return Of The Jedi ... ( http://bit.ly/1oZOTaX )
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oZOJjK )
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), January - February 2016 Joint Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oZOwNp )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-january-february-2016-joint-statement/#comment-116714 << was this discussed ? ☟︎
nubbins`: but this may be a failing on my part ☟︎
nubbins` can't imagine the sort of mindset required to believe that the only two viable options for one's future are stasis or a $10mn windfall
nubbins`: he can't just move out of DC, he has to do it on a carrier fleet ☟︎
nubbins`: alf the absolutist
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: BTC just failed, now what? << It seems business as usual tho...or is #b-a closing shop?
asciilifeform: escape from my concentration camp, for one thing. But that costs 1000x what i have.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: then why business as usual if bitcoin is dead?
nubbins`: take your time, i gotta shit
nubbins`: within the bounds of credulity
nubbins`: in a perfect world where the transfer of such goods or the provision of such services was able to take place in absolute secrect
asciilifeform: recall kolhoz inmates refusing to plant?
nubbins`: so, obviously usg is reading this right now
asciilifeform: what i don't want is its motion to add to my detectable usg taxability in any way.
nubbins`: try actually explaining this time
nubbins`: you don't get to control what happens to it once it leaves your hands